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This composite list is for beer cans with the same labels in both IRTP and Non-IRTP versions. To get the ball rolling, here's the lone entrant from Colorado.
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From the OI World:

Best Hapsburg Brand
Falls City Beer
Genny 12 Horse Ale
Hillmans Beer
Hornung's Cream Ale
Hornung Beer
Hornung's Bock
Old Crown Lazy Aged Ale
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Sterling Beer

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Thanks Rand! I'll add these to the next update. Are any of these NOT listed in the USBC?
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I'd like to add some Michigan cans to this list if I may. I don't have a reference to work with so I'll have to go with descriptions. First up is the E&B Premium conetop, commonly seen as IRTP and rarely seen without the statement. Heidelburg conetops from Flint are commonly seen non-IRTP, IRTP version is rare. Schmidt's "sunburst" cone from Detroit (red, white, and metallic gold w/ black brand name lettering) is extremely rare as non-IRTP but was marketed as such. Finally, the metallic gold HP Altes cone. Extremely rare as non-IRTP, if I'm not mistaken Longopener owned an original example.
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I am not a U.S. can expert, so not sure there is such a trio as IRTP/Non-IRTP/Withdrawn Free?
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Here are a few other Michigan cans that Dave missed. Must be getting old.

Actually I would have missed the Altes on Dave's list since I don't have that can.

12oz Flats

Fox Deluxe IRTP 65-14 (common)
Fox Deluxe non-IRTP 65-15 (extremely rare)

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Goebel Extra Dry Withdrawn Free 70-34 (extremely rare)
Goebel Extra Dry IRTP 70-35 (common)
Goebel Extra Dry non-IRTP 70-36 (less common)

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Pfeiffer's Famous Beer IRTP 113-39
Pfeiffer's Famous Beer non-IRTP 113-40

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Menominee 173-18 IRTP (common)
Menominee 173-19 non-IRTP (Very difficult)

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Fox Deluxe IRTP 209-16 (obtainable)
Fox Deluxe non-IRTP NL (rare)

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I'd better check on My altes HP! Had no clue about that :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Wheaton wrote:I'd like to add some Michigan cans to this list if I may. I don't have a reference to work with so I'll have to go with descriptions. First up is the E&B Premium conetop, commonly seen as IRTP and rarely seen without the statement. Heidelburg conetops from Flint are commonly seen non-IRTP, IRTP version is rare. Schmidt's "sunburst" cone from Detroit (red, white, and metallic gold w/ black brand name lettering) is extremely rare as non-IRTP but was marketed as such. Finally, the metallic gold HP Altes cone. Extremely rare as non-IRTP, if I'm not mistaken Longopener owned an original example.
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E&B Premium IRTP 160-19
E&B Premium non-IRTP 160-20

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Heidelburg IRTP 168-20 (Most of these are rolled cans. This one was actually filled. Came from a small find down here is Florida a few years ago. Tough can either way.)
Heidelburg non-IRTP 168-21

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Schmidt's Beer IRTP 184-08
Schmidt's Beer non-IRTP 184-09

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Altes IRTP 150-12
Altes non-ITRP 150-13 (Thanks Randy for letting me use your image. Can anyone help me get this can?)

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Mark (expired) wrote:I am not a U.S. can expert, so not sure there is such a trio as IRTP/Non-IRTP/Withdrawn Free?
See the Goebel Extra Dry above. Only trio I know of, but could be more.
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Great post! The pics & USBC #'s are much appreciated. I'll have these listed with the next update.
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As usual, in less than 24 hours someone on this site has the answer to my my musings! Of course - now to see if there are any more trios?
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Another trio.....
Miller High Life USBC 99-32 Internal Revenue Tax Paid (common)
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Miller High Life USBC 99-32 Internal Revenue Taxpaid (common)
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Miller High Life Like USBC 99-32 Withdrawn Free (rare)
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Miller High Life USBC 99-34 Non-IRTP (somewhat tough)
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For sure Falls City OIs have a WF, IRTP, and non-IRTP Trio.

....same goes for the Hornung Beer OI.....

Best Hapsburg.....has the first two, while the non-IRTP the black at the bottom is more blue.....hummm....
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Here's the Texas ones that I know of.
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Mitchells IRTP.jpg
I just noticed that the non-IRTP Pearls have the Keg-Kans Logo while the IRTP does not. Now I'll have to start turning over Pearls to look for this difference...
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Noted and archived for the next update. I really appreciate you guys taking the time to put up pics. Keep 'em coming...
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No pictures or numbers right now, but I'll add Boh Club cone from Spokane, the Rainers w/label similar to jubs but a plaid? Background, both from Seattle and Spokane, Blue Blitz
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What about the Rupperts from NY?? I'm sure they are pairs :smile:
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Bantam- I kinda checked my Rupert's but don't think I had any.. Do have some other NY cans from upstate... 1st up are the red ad white UC flats. The IRTP is on the lower right of seam. We have only found the IRTPs a couple of times, 1st time was in a huge 1949-52 dump with Monger, AG and chris Eib a few yrs back. We also got into a boat load of IRTP And non IRTP BEV flats which are pictured as well. Think we were ho humming this dump full of UCs then someone noticed IRTP!! And we changed out mood
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And we also have the Genny bullseye label. We find loads of the non IRTP and only a few times the IRTP. Funny thing is how the gold is way better on the IRTP i have found
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Thanks Kevin! Noted and archived for the next update.
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Berghoff cones from IN, Non is a toughie.

I checked USBC and there are two rupperts with the same label but IRTP difference
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Thanks Ted! I'll check the USBC #'s and get them added to the list for the next update.
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Jax beer from New Orleans
Just off the top of my head for now :smile:
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OH!! And Eidelwiess flats?? Maby? I can check tomorrow if need be I'm just thinking of these as I type :cool:
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Schlitz is an easy one (49 flat).
How about Grain belt?
Blatz ... Maby? :smt006
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Thanks to everyone that posted this last week! The list is updated as of March 2. Last addition was the Berghoff cones Bantam mentioned. Keep the cans & pics coming!
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I can think of red fox and prior. :smt006
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Here's what I've got, other than maybe some OIs that I didn't search through (I figure those are well known).

Green Senate Bocks, 132-12. The far left is "others pending", next is 3 pats, and finally non-IRTP.
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Next are the white Senate 250's, 132-21 & 132-22.
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Up next are the Gunther cans, 78-23 & 78-24.
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Then we've got the Gunther's Bock cans, 78-29 & 78-30 (my IRTP is rough, but you can still tell what it is).
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Rheingold Bock cans. My IRTP is from NY and the non-IRTP is from NJ, but the non-IRTP also comes from NY (I just don't have one). Wonder if the IRTP also comes from NJ??? Cans are similar to 123-16 & 124-17, but older style lettering.
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Finally we've got the Red Fox cans from Norfolk, 119-23 & 119-24. Sorry about the blurry photos!
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"Rheingold Bock cans. My IRTP is from NY and the non-IRTP is from NJ, but the non-IRTP also comes from NY (I just don't have one). Wonder if the IRTP also comes from NJ??? Cans are similar to 123-16 & 124-17, but older style lettering."

Steve, I don't think there are any IRTP Rheingold cans from Liebmann/Rheingold in Orange. During the transition from IRTP to non-IRTP cans, the brewery that became Rheingold in Orange was still Trommer's. I have both IRTP and non-IRTP Rheingold Beers with the block "Lager Beer" from New York and only the non-IRTP from Orange. None of these are difficult, although the IRTP is a bit of a sleeper. I never new about the Bock IRTP. I'll have to look for that one.
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Re: IRTP/Non-IRTP Discussion Thread

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Thanks for the pics Steve! I'll archive these for the next update. The list is really taking shape now. And again... keep 'em coming.
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