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Hey, I don’t keep records of auction.prices. Curious to know the TOP SIX beer cans sold at public auction
I think the Krueger special was a private transaction, so it and other private deals don’t count
So, purpose of this thread is to make a list of the six most expensive cans that sold at public auction s.
Values to include hammer price and buyers premiums
I’m guessing the total to be over $200,000 ???


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I think it looks like this, and all of these have happened since last November:

Krueger's Bock LONG OPENER $49,590.00
Burger Beer Camel 1/16th Barrel Can $46,215.00
Storz Winterbru Beer Flat Top $45,600.00
Schlitz Bock Paper Label Crowntainer $38,760.00
Pabst Old Tankard Ale BLOCK LETTER $38,190.00
Indian Queen Ale $35,100.00
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@mtracy64
Thanks! I was thinking you might be able to provide the answer.

For those of us (me included) not familiar with these cans, I looked them up. Here's what they looked like.

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mtracy64 wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:50 pm I think it looks like this, and all of these have happened since last November:

Krueger's Bock LONG OPENER $49,590.00
Burger Beer Camel 1/16th Barrel Can $46,215.00
Storz Winterbru Beer Flat Top $45,600.00
Schlitz Bock Paper Label Crowntainer $38,760.00
Pabst Old Tankard Ale BLOCK LETTER $38,190.00
Indian Queen Ale $35,100.00
Wow! Thanks for the list!
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MI-Cans wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:03 am @mtracy64
Thanks! I was thinking you might be able to provide the answer.

For those of us (me included) not familiar with these cans, I looked them up. Here's what they looked like.

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Oops, I forgot one . . . probably because it's a converted mug that's a bit short.

Krueger's Bock LONG OPENER $49,590.00
Burger Beer Camel 1/16th Barrel Can $46,215.00
Storz Winterbru Beer Flat Top $45,600.00
White Horse Beer Cone Top $45,030.00
Schlitz Bock Paper Label Crowntainer $38,760.00
Pabst Old Tankard Ale BLOCK LETTER $38,190.00
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$263,385.00
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Due to revised information from @mtracy64 I will provide a corrected image.

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This is a great example of what's wrong with the market the past year or so. Three years ago, the first two were each worth at least twice as much as any of the other four. Call me old-fashioned, but I look at that group and see maybe $85K.

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Wow! The money on that 6 pack would buy a nice home around here...I'm just glad there are folks that find old beer cans that valuable.
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I would bet that not one of those would crack the top 50 most expensive cans if everything became available over a couple of years. All great cans but not even close the best of the best of the best ( with apologies to Men in Black). Maybe the Krueger would break into the top 100? 2c from the peanut gallery.
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bodean wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:52 am Wow! The money on that 6 pack would buy a nice home around here...I'm just glad there are folks that find old beer cans that valuable.
Sigh . . . I've often said over the years that I thought rare cans were undervalued compared to other vintage collectibles. I'm not philosophically opposed to the amounts of money being spent here, it's just that these cans aren't worthy. The Burger is the one possible exception - it's the best known example by a wide margin and the lesser examples routinely brought five figures throughout the 2010's. Adolph Grenke's Krueger's Bock sold at auction for $19,200 ten years ago - I thought it was $18,000, but Google says $19,200. In that same auction Adolph's Gibbons Bock cone brought $36,000, and that seemed perfectly reasonable, perhaps even a bit low, to me. Throughout the history of the hobby auctions had served to create (define?) separation in the values of cans where values had sort of "bunched-up" near the limit of what non-auction sellers knew or thought buyers might pay. These modern auctions are having the opposite effect, bunching values of any old semi-rare to rare cans up at or near the limit of what these clearly uneducated and very deep-pocketed buyers are willing to pay. Relative values between, say the Krueger's Bock and the Storz Winterbru, had a long history of making sense, and that's gone completely out the window now. If values had gone up, say 25% across the board, you could look at and draw the conclusion that it made sense and decide whether or not play. All I see is chaos, though, so my response is to decide that I might pay 10% to 20% more for something I really want if the condition is really good, but otherwise I'm only willing to pay about the same I would have in 2019. So, I'm not adding much these days. But if prices do normalize at some point, I'll be ready to splurge. If they don't, I'll retire a couple years earlier than I previously anticipated.

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mtracy64 wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:55 pm This is a great example of what's wrong with the market the past year or so. Three years ago, the first two were each worth at least twice as much as any of the other four. Call me old-fashioned, but I look at that group and see maybe $85K.

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85k is exactly the amount I came up with - exactly! I was mulling over 80, but thought, no I'll grant a little bump up from that for the Kruegers and the Burger.
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mtracy64 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:38 pm Adolph Grenke's Krueger's Bock sold at auction for $19,200 ten years ago - I thought it was $18,000, but Google says $19,200. In that same auction Adolph's Gibbons Bock cone brought $36,000, and that seemed perfectly reasonable, perhaps even a bit low, to me.
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Google's not always right! I dug up the Auction. Here's the link:
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/cat ... ctionid=97

Here's the Krueger's:


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Here's the Gibbon's:

GIBBONS.png

I captured all the Alcohol related data and played with it in a spreadsheet. If anyone's interested, here it is:

GRENKE AUCTION SEP-2012.xlsx
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MI-Cans wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:06 am @mtracy64
mtracy64 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:38 pm Adolph Grenke's Krueger's Bock sold at auction for $19,200 ten years ago - I thought it was $18,000, but Google says $19,200. In that same auction Adolph's Gibbons Bock cone brought $36,000, and that seemed perfectly reasonable, perhaps even a bit low, to me.
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Google's not always right! I dug up the Auction. Here's the link:
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/cat ... ctionid=97

Here's the Krueger's:



KRUEGER'S.png


Here's the Gibbon's:


GIBBONS.png


I captured all the Alcohol related data and played with it in a spreadsheet. If anyone's interested, here it is:


GRENKE AUCTION SEP-2012.xlsx


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Thanks, Ed. What I blithely referred to as "Google" was actually an article from the Philadelphia Inquirer. Oddly, other media outlets concur on the prices they used and so does the 'prices realized' list from Morphy themselves. There must have been an added fee of some sort, though it's strange that it's a different percentage on the two cans. I can't find the numbers again, but I do recall Morphy charging an exorbitant packing fee. There also would have been a cost for shipping and insurance, but it would be disingenuous to include any of these things in the prices realized.

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We should do a hurricane poll and see what we think the real top 6 pack would be- Curious how many different cans would make this short list? If a perfect X turned up- or there is only 1 ongrade example- What is it 100+ major can designs that are unique or unknown ongrade- then the popularity contest could talk about demand.... Andy
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eh! yooperaho here. The Six I Don't Have.
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