Morean Auction 8-28-2022

[mtracy64]

Here are the top six before live bidding opens, and I'm having extreme difficulty assimilating this information.

The Krueger's Bock is no surprise considering that the $30,000+ results from the past year have been on cans which typically sold between $7,500 and $12,000 until 2019 (aside from the giant Burger can). For this can to make sense against those other nosebleed results it has to go for $80,000+, and I figure there is zero chance of that happening.

I also expected the Royal cone to do extremely well due to graphics, condition and previous very high results on western cones. The Fritz Brew had a potentially very high upside in my mind. The Eigenbrot's and Fox Deluxe are huge, huge surprises and I think both have benefited from information in USBC-OI which has gone obsolete since the book was published. The Sunshine wasn't on my radar at all - is it exceptionally rare in the IRTP variation?

It's going to be an interesting day . . .

Marc

[ConeAddict]

The Krueger's Bock is no surprise considering that the $30,000+ results from the past year have been on cans which typically sold between $7,500 and $12,000 until 2019 (aside from the giant Burger can). For this can to make sense against those other nosebleed results it has to go for $80,000+, and I figure there is zero chance of that happening.

Yes, I think I commented a while back that it is weird the ceiling for can prices has held while prices have exploded. The known top online sales record was about $37k 5 years ago and has only went up to around $42k I think.

[Nobes1010]

I LOVE (and simultaneously hate) auction day!!

[Nobes1010]

Can someone explain this to me?? Why is the first one at a higher price currently?

[mtracy64]

I LOVE (and simultaneously hate) auction day!!

I've always had a love/hate relationship with auctions, starting with eBay, but I'm definitely leaning more and more to the hate side!

Marc

[mtracy64]

[mtracy64]

Can someone explain this to me?? Why is the first one at a higher price currently?

The early version of that can is considerably tougher to find.

Marc

[OctoberAle]

I LOVE (and simultaneously hate) auction day!!

I've always had a love/hate relationship with auctions, starting with eBay, but I'm definitely leaning more and more to the hate side!

Marc

Right there with ya!

[mtracy64]

I managed to be the underbidder on a can; that's a moral victory in this day and age . . .

[OctoberAle]

I managed to be the underbidder on a can; that's a moral victory in this day and age . . .

Me too. Underbidder on Berghoff Ale. I refused to go any higher. Bid more than I thought it was worth. Shouldn't have participated in hindsight.
I've had the can twice before.

I shouldn't have participated! - I need to hammer this home into my cranium!

[OctoberAle]

Wasn't the Fox DeLuxe can found in quantity in recent years? Isn't that the can Dan Baker had in totes for years? It took a long time to sell them in the 2k range. Or am I wrong about this?

[mtracy64]

Wasn't the Fox DeLuxe can found in quantity in recent years? Isn't that the can Dan Baker had in totes for years? It took a long time to sell them in the 2k range. Or am I wrong about this?

Mine is better than the auction can, has the original bottom, still carries the BCP $1,800 price tag and was discounted from that . . .

Marc

[OctoberAle]

Wasn't the Fox DeLuxe can found in quantity in recent years? Isn't that the can Dan Baker had in totes for years? It took a long time to sell them in the 2k range. Or am I wrong about this?

Mine is better than the auction can, has the original bottom, still carries the BCP $1,800 price tag and was discounted from that . . .

Marc

That matches exactly with my recollection. Do you remember the number of cans in the find?

I mean, I'm thinking it was close to a case of them...

[ConeAddict]

The Krueger Bock just set the new online auction record I think, 43.5K pre buyers fee. Dan was really hyping the long opener Krueger beer before it as a bargain, I almost bid on it myself.

[mtracy64]

Wasn't the Fox DeLuxe can found in quantity in recent years? Isn't that the can Dan Baker had in totes for years? It took a long time to sell them in the 2k range. Or am I wrong about this?

Mine is better than the auction can, has the original bottom, still carries the BCP $1,800 price tag and was discounted from that . . .

Marc

That matches exactly with my recollection. Do you remember the number of cans in the find?

I mean, I'm thinking it was close to a case of them...

I had been kicking the tires on them for some time before Dave made an offer I couldn't refuse at Frankenmuth the day before Gene kicked off his first round of sales. They still had at least half a dozen then, but I never knew how many were in the find.

Marc

[mtracy64]

The Krueger Bock just set the new online auction record I think, 43.5K pre buyers fee. Dan was really hyping the long opener Krueger beer before it as a bargain, I almost bid on it myself.

I guess $50K is the barrier no one was willing to cross; 14% makes $49,590.

I was after the long opener Beer, but was already done by the time Dan started with "Bargain of the day", "Long Opener!", etc. It has a lot of scratches and is therefore difficult to value - I'd rather guess low than high.

Marc

[mtracy64]

We need the facepalm gif for these auction discussions. The exploding head is pretty good, but it takes ten seconds to explode.

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[Nobes1010]

Dan sits on "last call" so so damn long!!!! Kills me. I had a few that were "mine" but then lost to the 45 second "last call"

[Nobes1010]

lol. I just won a Pabst I didn't even want because I got competitive. I really shouldn't be on these auctions.

[ConeAddict]

lol. I just won a Pabst I didn't even want because I got competitive. I really shouldn't be on these auctions.

That 50's Pabst Bock going for more than all of the Bock OI's is just nuts. Not sure what I am missing there.

[Nobes1010]

lol. I just won a Pabst I didn't even want because I got competitive. I really shouldn't be on these auctions.

That 50's Pabst Bock going for more than all of the Bock OI's is just nuts. Not sure what I am missing there.

Yeah that is insane. Needless to say, it was not the Pabst I won. Hahaha

[mtracy64]

It's interesting that Morean is 100 lots ahead of the Good Guys with only half an hour headstart.

[Nobes1010]

I got the Red Top I wanted and now I'm out. Prob paid too much, but whatever, Im happy

[mtracy64]

I was done when the last Pabst Bock OI finished, and I never even got a bid in. Perhaps I can win something from the Good Guys today.

[keithker]

We need the facepalm gif for these auction discussions. The exploding head is pretty good, but it takes ten seconds to explode.


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[jacoby4664]

Thought I would chime in on the Sunshine crowntainer: I bought that can off Ebay about 3 to 4 years ago for, as I recall $3300. It is rare for two reasons, one it only says "Beer" on the front label, as oppossed to Light Beer on the more common cans, and the S in the sun on the top of the can is in a block font. The back is unique as well, so that helps. It is rare, this one is in the top three condition, I think, not 100% on that. Thank goodness I picked up one not as good recently for my shelf. Happy to have it. I intended to buy this one back today, but when I logged on this morning and saw the price $9700, prebidding mind you, I shook my head and went to plan B. Ultimately settled for plan E today. E as in Empty!!! Also, I bought the Jordan paper label crowntainer sold today on EBay for $185 about 4 years ago. I am more surprised at the sale price of the Jordan, $2600 plus buyer premium, that I am the Sunshine, $10,000 plus buyers premium. That can is in very por condition, it even has a couple pin holes in it.

[ConeAddict]

I was done when the last Pabst Bock OI finished, and I never even got a bid in. Perhaps I can win something from the Good Guys today.

I was after that one too, looks like $1500 was my last bid but I was willing to go a little higher. I should have went after the Pabst Blue Ribbon Bock OI a little harder as I could sell my downgrade to make up the cost but oh well, not really in a buying mood today. Just won a Schmidt Draft Pike can in BCP auction, I am closing in on completing that set which is tougher than you would think ongrade.

The Fritz Brew was my can, sent it to Dan a few months ago after a tough day of not even competing for cans I wanted in his auction. It hit the price point that I thought it would so no complaints but it was a tough can to let go of.

[jacoby4664]

I was done when the last Pabst Bock OI finished, and I never even got a bid in. Perhaps I can win something from the Good Guys today.

I was after that one too, looks like $1500 was my last bid but I was willing to go a little higher. I should have went after the Pabst Blue Ribbon Bock OI a little harder as I could sell my downgrade to make up the cost but oh well, not really in a buying mood today. Just won a Schmidt Draft Pike can in BCP auction, I am closing in on completing that set which is tougher than you would think ongrade.

The Fritz Brew was my can, sent it to Dan a few months ago after a tough day of not even competing for cans I wanted in his auction. It hit the price point that I thought it would so no complaints but it was a tough can to let go of.

Beautiful can!! I have always wanted one of those. It is one of those cans I want, but when I buy, I keep awhile and then resell because I have had it and it doesn't fit my collection. I sold a Royal Bru on the BCP auction today that was just such a can. I love the can, but on to to the next new one.

[Wild]

I am only watching the flats but many of the previous outlandish numbers have plummeted back to earth...
The Santa Fe 127-17 shaved off about $9000 to a reasonable $1287.
The two little words 'best known' as in the case of the Bull's Eye removes all restraint it appears.
I ended up with 0 cans on the Morean site in spite of bidding multiple times well beyond reason.
I hope collectors bring a few things to Norfolk and realize that the are a lot of Eigenbrot's Beers bouncing around and not
many folks will to drop $12,000.
Playing in these auctions is like my golf game, relentless failure.

[hemmings]

Interesting to see the drops on so many things. That A-1 10oz seemed way cheap.

Crazy as this all is... Dan's entire auction would not have been the BP on the Micky Mantle card that just sold for
$12,500,000. Still an awful lot of cash sloshing around out there..... Andy