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I searched and was able to come up with only 877 of them. They range in size from 7oz to 16oz. Here's a PDF for reference along with images.

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Thanks for posting, interesting, I had heard Potosi
and Wisconsin Club, were never zips, and I've seen pictures of a Leinenkugel's zip. I grew up in Leinies country, and never found any .

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I bet you @oldmoneytexan has 92% of them.......
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Awesome!! Very cool.

Anyway to search by zip only cans? Cans that were only produced as a zip top. Something unique about the can body that never appeared as a ring pull or flat. As far as we know anyway.

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WISCONSINCANMAN wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 8:07 pm Thanks for posting, interesting, I had heard Potosi
and Wisconsin Club, were never zips, and I've seen pictures of a Leinenkugel's zip. I grew up in Leinies country, and never found any .

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What an awesome photo! Some enterprising printing company out there should produce a high quality wallpaper out of that. Do you think my wife would allow me to use it when we renovate our spare bedroom upstairs??
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Please note that there may be some errors on this list. In almost all cases, if a can was listed as a zip in the original book, it is still listed in the Supplement. As we have added the additional images, we have tried to indicate whether a variation has been documented or not. For instance, a can in the book may have the Z and T flags and, in the comment, we have indicated which can is shown and whether the other variation(s) have been documented or not. For those that are noted as undocumented, I would be hesitant to say they truly exist as we do not have a full 5 images for them.

If any of you have some of these undocumented cans, we would be very interested in getting them imaged. Please be on the lookout for when the photo box will be at a show near you. For those of you that cannot get these to a show, but have the 5 images of the can, please feel free to send me the images and I will change the comment to indicate that the variation has been documented.

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@Beverlx
Beverlx wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 9:36 pm God bless you, my son.

Bill, we can all use a little of that! Thank you.


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by OhioCanGuy » May 3rd, 2021, 10:17 pm
Anyway to search by zip only cans? Cans that were only produced as a zip top. Something unique about the can body that never appeared as a ring pull or flat. As far as we know anyway.

Bob, my search was done using their newly created and re-structured search function. I only put in one category - Zip. The result was what I posted above, 877 cans.


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A list of actual zip only cans would be interesting. It would be a manual search, though. Maybe I'll tackle it.

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by Beercanpete » May 3rd, 2021, 11:54 pm
What an awesome photo! Some enterprising printing company out there should produce a high quality wallpaper out of that. Do you think my wife would allow me to use it when we renovate our spare bedroom upstairs??

Pete, now there's an interesting concept...a can room with cans, wall to wall and floor to ceiling, but with no cans or shelves taking up space. Could be popular with some wives but not so much with collectors.


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by Uncle Jackson » May 4th, 2021, 6:36 am
Please note that there may be some errors on this list. In almost all cases, if a can was listed as a zip in the original book, it is still listed in the Supplement. As we have added the additional images, we have tried to indicate whether a variation has been documented or not. For instance, a can in the book may have the Z and T flags and, in the comment, we have indicated which can is shown and whether the other variation(s) have been documented or not. For those that are noted as undocumented, I would be hesitant to say they truly exist as we do not have a full 5 images for them.

Jerry, that's the reason for the disclaimer in my Signature content. Until the databases reach a respectable level of Data Integrity, all the data should be questionable.

I did my best to share my observations with the Product Development team. I was told that my observations/opinions were mean and hurtful. Everything I provided was backed up with images and explanations. I couldn't make that stuff up. It doesn't help that the team leader is an icon of the hobby and the programmer is his son and a non BCCA member. So now I'm "Persona Non Grata" with the BOD and the Product Development team.

Well, back to my little corner of the Hobby...

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These are the zips from Colorado. Some of the ones listed are incorrect for various reasons.
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Uncle Jackson wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 6:36 am For those of you that cannot get these to a show, but have the 5 images of the can, please feel free to send me the images and I will change the comment to indicate that the variation has been documented.

As requested...

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keithker wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 9:38 pm I bet you @oldmoneytexan has 92% of them.......
I have many of them. Several not listed as well. The Bergheim has been on my want list for a long time. Never even seen a dumper.
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A few that I don't see on the list...
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Edward, please tell us about that People's Lager Beer.

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MI-Cans wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:43 am @oldmoneytexan
Edward, please tell us about that People's Lager Beer.

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I cherry picked 2 advanced tab collections and I can't remember if this one was in a pile I sent to Art for "confirmation." I remember several he suspected were relids, so I didn't buy them. I had the Peoples flat for comparison, and the only difference I could tell was the top lid (obviously) and the weight. The flat was a heavier, thicker steel while this one is typical "tab" weight.



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Good things going on here!

If anyone has a zip lidded can that isn't in the Supplement, post it here, showing the lid and a face. Maybe even take images as @Uncle Jackson suggested. They (Prod Dev Team) will eventually need details to insure correct identification and placement.

We've supposedly uncovered 22 already.


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Between Robert Fondren and Jim Wolfe, I bet they have at least 22 others.
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MI-Cans wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:29 pm Good things going on here!

If anyone has a zip lidded can that isn't in the Supplement, post it here, showing the lid and a face. Maybe even take images as @Uncle Jackson suggested. They (Prod Dev Team) will eventually need details to insure correct identification and placement.

We've supposedly uncovered 22 already.


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keithker wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 5:37 pm
MI-Cans wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:29 pm Good things going on here!

If anyone has a zip lidded can that isn't in the Supplement, post it here, showing the lid and a face. Maybe even take images as @Uncle Jackson suggested. They (Prod Dev Team) will eventually need details to insure correct identification and placement.

We've supposedly uncovered 22 already.


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I don’t see this Bosch Premium Beer on the list
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Flat_Top wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:03 pm I don’t see this Bosch Premium Beer on the list
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Missing from this zip search, as well as the supplement, are the Esslinger Parti-Quiz, Rainier Jubilees, Schmidt Scenics.

I would like to see them in the supplement.
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oldindiapaleale wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:26 pm Missing from this zip search, as well as the supplement, are the Esslinger Parti-Quiz, Rainier Jubilees, Schmidt Scenics. I would like to see them in the supplement.

Any information for what the plans are for these brands and when they might be implemented?
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MI-Cans wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:36 am I did my best to share my observations with the Product Development team. I was told that my observations/opinions were mean and hurtful. Everything I provided was backed up with images and explanations. I couldn't make that stuff up. It doesn't help that the team leader is an icon of the hobby and the programmer is his son and a non BCCA member. So now I'm "Persona Non Grata" with the BOD and the Product Development team.
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Hey Edward, Wasn't my Tomahawk a zip? Andy
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hemmings wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 6:45 am Hey Edward, Wasn't my Tomahawk a zip? Andy
Yessir. I've never seen with a lid other than a zip.
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I thought it was one of those zip only cans... jumped out at me for its absence.... Got a Tommi Hawk pin not long ago..... Still have a tap knob and the coaster... Probably should try and get a can again.... Anyone got a solid dumper available? Andy
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hemmings wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:15 pm I thought it was one of those zip only cans... jumped out at me for its absence.... Got a Tommi Hawk pin not long ago..... Still have a tap knob and the coaster... Probably should try and get a can again.... Anyone got a solid dumper available? Andy
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Dooh. thanks Marc
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Couple of questions for Jerry (and anyone else that wants to chime in):

First off, a huge THANK YOU goes out to Jerry and the other guys tackling this enormous, and potentially, never ending project. You, and Jim Hall (I think), where at the Dayton, OH Mini-Canvention with the photo box two years ago. I had a couple of cans photographed and it was great to see the process, the photo box, talk to you guys, etc. Very cool!!

So the questions: Specific to zips here, but line of thinking could apply to any can.

1. If someone shows up with a can that was previously only known as a tab (or flat), but the can they have in hand is a zip, how much scrutiny is put in to be sure the can wasn't re-lidded? Lets assume here that the can is otherwise identical to the pull tab. Some replacement jobs are obvious. Some are so well done it's difficult to tell. We see it more and more in dealer auctions where they reference that a can "may" have been re-lidded, but they are not 100% sure. Is there a guideline that everyone follows for entry into the Supplement?

2. What's the policy on rolled cans?

Thanks in advance for your insights on the above. And thank you again for all your hard work on this monumental project!
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