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Post by hover31 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:21 pm

checking new member CrustyRusty’s great post with Rolling Rock detail horse cans- can’t find anything like this tab out there on theBay or in the book. Any others? Ziphippie
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Post by hover31 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:27 pm

Do both labels have the detail horse and the ‘pony’ on the back? My ss can is a combo of both cans in the book. Lebo has some on theBay now, all with the ‘pony’- no detail. Ziphippie

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Post by oldmoneytexan » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:40 pm

I have 3 variations.
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Post by hover31 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:38 pm

and there it is- nice lineup, love those metallics. Ziphippie

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:smt025 Nice OMT :smt007

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Post by oldindiapaleale » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:15 pm

What are the can companies on these three variations??

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Post by oldmoneytexan » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:50 pm

oldindiapaleale wrote:
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What are the can companies on these three variations??
Left to right, Continental, Continental, and Crown.

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Post by CrustyRusty » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:58 am

hover31 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:21 pm
checking new member CrustyRusty’s great post with Rolling Rock detail horse cans- can’t find anything like this tab out there on theBay or in the book. Any others? Ziphippie779D5BFE-003E-4A5E-9BDE-1BE2A3507222.jpeg099B7E43-7CDA-488E-9362-2E577C4C48B5.jpeg
Great!...another one I have to look for now!....lol
Thanks for the post, I'll be keeping my eyes out for the other variation as well, didn't realize this version is out there also.... :mrgreen:

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Post by Pbama » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:55 am

Would below variation (waterfall, pony head on back, gold lids, Continental) be considered a fourth?:
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Post by oldmoneytexan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Pbama wrote:
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Would below variation (waterfall, pony head on back, gold lids, Continental) be considered a fourth?:
For someone who collected lid variations, yes.

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Post by sirfranky » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:13 pm

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I like this one.

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Post by CrustyRusty » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:16 am

oldmoneytexan wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:40 pm
I have 3 variations.

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Kinda makes wonder if there was ever a white horse front and detailed horse on the back side of the first style tab top..... :scratch:

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Post by CrustyRusty » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:08 pm

oldmoneytexan wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:50 pm
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What are the can companies on these three variations??
Left to right, Continental, Continental, and Crown.
Just wanted to add to this thread that the flat top detail horse can is also a Crown can co., and the flat top white face horse is CCC.

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Post by CrustyRusty » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:40 pm

hover31 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:21 pm
checking new member CrustyRusty’s great post with Rolling Rock detail horse cans- can’t find anything like this tab out there on theBay or in the book. Any others? Ziphippie779D5BFE-003E-4A5E-9BDE-1BE2A3507222.jpeg099B7E43-7CDA-488E-9362-2E577C4C48B5.jpeg
Never hurts to ask...These had been listed on the bay for quite awhile, only a front view was shown in the listing, I finally contacted the seller yesterday morning for some more pics including the back sides, several hours later he replied and said he up-dated the listing with more pics, low and behold the variation I've been after for some time now is there!!, of the four "waterfall front, horse head back" can, one is the detail/bridled horse head can, and it's the nicest of the four, I made him a fair offer for the whole lot which he accepted....glad I asked, not an easy can to come by.s-l1600 (71).jpg[/attachment]
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Post by Boardman » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:55 am

Let's not forget the little cans

Here is a sample of the major variations I have (19) total.

Let me know if I am missing any. Tnx
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Post by CrustyRusty » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:50 am

Boardman wrote:
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Let's not forget the little cans

Here is a sample of the major variations I have (19) total.

Let me know if I am missing any. Tnx
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I've wondered if the 7oz "waterfall front, horse-head back" can ever came with a detailed/bridled horse-head on any of them, so far all of the detailed horse-head cans I own and have seen pictures of have been cans made by Crown, my 7oz is a CCC can, at this point I don't know if Crown ever made any 7oz cans for Rolling Rock, if so, it would more than likely be a detailed head can, I still have no clue why Crown changed the label when making cans for Rolling Rock, but when I come across either the 12oz or 7oz cans of this label, I always check them.
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Post by CrustyRusty » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:53 am

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Not sure if this is really relevant or not, but thought I'd add it to the thread, here's a pic of the lids of the detail (on the left) and white head horse tab top cans that I have, I also noted that the the bottom lids have what looks to be date codes? on them, the detail can has the numbers 71/159 on the bottom lid, and the white head can bottom lid has 72/166 stamped into it, anyone know what these numbers really mean?
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Post by CrustyRusty » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:38 am

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The only other place besides advertising that I've seen the detailed horse head is on bottle caps/crowns (or maybe the cone-top can caps/crowns), not researching or being a cap collector, I can't say for sure when or what this style cap was used on, tough reversed, it resembles the image closely on the detailed/bridled horse head cans.

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Post by MI-Cans » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:34 am

I checked the BMV and found one article that contains details regarding changes in their cans, no images to compare. This article was from 1981. A search of the BMV listed a bunch of can changes, some of which had images along with minor descriptive info.

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Post by MI-Cans » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:15 am

Did a quick look at of the pages listed in the BMV search of "Rolling Rock". There's certainly a lot of detail for the differences in their cans for collectors of finite details. I stopped at 1995, thinking there would be minimal interest beyond that.

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Post by CrustyRusty » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:47 am

MI-Cans wrote:
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Did a quick look at of the pages listed in the BMV search of "Rolling Rock". There's certainly a lot of detail for the differences in their cans for collectors of finite details. I stopped at 1995, thinking there would be minimal interest beyond that.

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Thank you sir....would still like to know more about when/why Crown can got involved with Rolling Rock and why they made a change to the label....

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Post by hover31 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:56 pm

No matter how many times I count the “wording”,
I do not come up with ‘33’ ?!!?
One of life’s mysteries I guess. Ziphippie

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Post by CrustyRusty » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:07 pm

hover31 wrote:
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No matter how many times I count the “wording”,
I do not come up with ‘33’ ?!!?
One of life’s mysteries I guess. Ziphippie
I just checked my CCC can and I do come up with 33 words if you add the "Rolling Rock" just below the pony head....

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Post by henry porter » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:20 pm

CrustyRusty wrote:
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IMAG0121.JPGNot sure if this is really relevant or not, but thought I'd add it to the thread, here's a pic of the lids of the detail (on the left) and white head horse tab top cans that I have, I also noted that the the bottom lids have what looks to be date codes? on them, the detail can has the numbers 71/159 on the bottom lid, and the white head can bottom lid has 72/166 stamped into it, anyone know what these numbers really mean?
159th day of 1971 and 166th day of 1972, maybe?

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henry porter wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:20 pm
CrustyRusty wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:53 am
IMAG0121.JPGNot sure if this is really relevant or not, but thought I'd add it to the thread, here's a pic of the lids of the detail (on the left) and white head horse tab top cans that I have, I also noted that the the bottom lids have what looks to be date codes? on them, the detail can has the numbers 71/159 on the bottom lid, and the white head can bottom lid has 72/166 stamped into it, anyone know what these numbers really mean?
159th day of 1971 and 166th day of 1972, maybe?
That was my thought...

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Post by hover31 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:47 pm

I just checked my CCC can and I do come up with 33 words if you add the "Rolling Rock" just below the pony head....
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After hours of staring I see how you did that now. Not sure that would be the reason for the ‘33’ included on the can. Repeal date was Dec. ‘33- I don’t care for speculation just makes more sense to me. Ziphippie

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hover31 wrote:
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I just checked my CCC can and I do come up with 33 words if you add the "Rolling Rock" just below the pony head....
After hours of staring I see how you did that now. Not sure that would be the reason for the ‘33’ included on the can. Repeal date was Dec. ‘33- I don’t care for speculation just makes more sense to me. Ziphippie
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After reading that the brewery re-opened in '33, that was my thought as well, it does makes more sense....

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Post by Boardman » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:16 am

CrustyRusty wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:50 am
Boardman wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:55 am
Let's not forget the little cans

Here is a sample of the major variations I have (19) total.

Let me know if I am missing any. Tnx
Michael
I've wondered if the 7oz "waterfall front, horse-head back" can ever came with a detailed/bridled horse-head on any of them, so far all of the detailed horse-head cans I own and have seen pictures of have been cans made by Crown, my 7oz is a CCC can, at this point I don't know if Crown ever made any 7oz cans for Rolling Rock, if so, it would more than likely be a detailed head can, I still have no clue why Crown changed the label when making cans for Rolling Rock, but when I come across either the 12oz or 7oz cans of this label, I always check them.
Yea - all mine little SS cans are Cc. with no horse detail - will keep lookin

thanks for the info,
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