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Post by MI-Cans » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:11 am

Came across these ads for aluminum soft tops on cans. Do the ads show what was really printed on their respective lids or was it just in the pictures for advertising? If any are real, got a picture?

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Post by Longhorn Mike » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:35 am

I know the Falstaff, Point, People's and Narragansett are all real. I assume the others are as well.

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Post by oldcrowncollector » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:14 am

They are real many soft tops had printing on top.
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Post by MI-Cans » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:56 pm

Thanks, Rick. I've seen some cans with the printing announcing the soft tops. My question being...is what's depicted in these ads, what was really on the actual retail products or just for advertising display only.

I saw in my other post that Adler Brau actually put the "Don't Be a Litterbug" graphic on a retail product and the can in the Hamms ad with "Seamless" on the side has never surfaced. That's why I asked for pictures that might verify or dispute these ads.

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Post by oldindiapaleale » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:35 pm

The Narragansett is real and really bad condition too.
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Post by Scott Levitt » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:46 pm

MI-Cans wrote:Came across these ads for aluminum soft tops on cans. Do the ads show what was really printed on their respective lids or was it just in the pictures for advertising? If any are real, got a picture?

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Post by Leon » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:30 pm

Here's a tough one not pictured, would love to see a Ad for this one. LEON.
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Post by renokenn » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:08 pm

There is quite a bit of info on this page.

https://www.therustybunch.com/forum/new ... ry/page/59

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Post by oldcrowncollector » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:14 pm

That is cool never knew about that being part of sight
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Post by idigrust » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:40 pm

It technically is not live yet, but I guess the cat's out of the bag.

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• What you’re looking at are just thumbnail views of the actual ads.
• If you click on any ad, it will display the complete ad in the center of the screen. Then you have two options.
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Post by pinnacle-project » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:01 pm

Very cool. This site keeps getting better. Thanks Ed, Dan, and anybody else who be helping.
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Post by Leon » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:04 pm

Sounds like a lot of work, Thanks, Ed. LEON.
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Post by renokenn » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:09 pm

I stumbled across it when doing my weekly search for Reno goodies. Very nice and would be happy to dump a few hundred Reno ads on you.
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Post by MI-Cans » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:44 pm

Not up to me. Once project is complete, it becomes property of the Board. They will decide the who, what, when, where of everything relating to it. I assume it'll be debated and decided on at the Spring Thaw Board meeting. Been on this since last summer. Don't know if I want to see another clipping for a while! Appreciate the comments.

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Post by oldcrowncollector » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:24 am

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Post by MI-Cans » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:23 pm

Thanks for your proof pics. So between this and my other post, the lids are real (including the Adler Brau Litter Bug one). If anyone has anything not pictured here, post it and I'll add it to the picture. It can be sort of a reference in case someone wants to collect those kinds of lids.

That leaves the Hamms seamless (word on the side) can as nonexistent.

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Post by beerhunter14 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 pm

Here what I have ,
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Post by MI-Cans » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:17 am

Thanks, Dennis. I added your contribution to the collage.

Again, if anyone has a "soft top" not in the picture, post it on this thread and I'll keep updating the picture.

Does anyone think I should add the Adler-Brau "Don't Be A Litterbug" top and make it a generic top reference or just stick with the soft tops?

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Post by Longhorn Mike » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:32 pm

The Old Style soft top lid was used on numerous Heileman brands including Special Export, Kingsbury, Wisconsin Premium, etc.

I will take photos when I go through my cans. I have numerous Pearl and Lone Star soft top variations.

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Post by hover31 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:44 pm

I had two of these, still full. We drank one at zoinkss a couple years back and I kept this one. No idea what beer they held- Ziphippie Bjorn
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Post by hover31 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:57 pm

and it looks like some Old Mil’s used the same printed Softop- Ziphippie Bjorn
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Post by Ted Wolfe » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:20 pm

For no longer than aluminum soft tops were in use, Burger used a variety of them
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Post by MI-Cans » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:34 am

Bjorn,
I used two of yours. The Continental Can and one with "Easy / Open" (which I identified as "TBD"). I'm open to showing duplicate lids as long as each is a different brand than what is already displayed in the collage. If you can write the brands on the lids I might be able include some more. And thanks for your input.

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Post by hover31 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:42 am

What a cool thread! Thank MI-Cans. Ziphippie Bjorn
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Post by MI-Cans » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:37 am

Updated with Bjorn's additions.

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Post by JustJoe » Tue May 01, 2018 10:39 pm

Just picked this one up, not sure if its useful ? It's a little rough.
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Post by MI-Cans » Wed May 02, 2018 1:36 pm

JustJoe,

Your can definitely qualifies and has been added to the collage. Were you aware that your can is an updated addition to the Volume I supplement?

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Post by JustJoe » Wed May 02, 2018 6:47 pm

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JustJoe,

Your can definitely qualifies and has been added to the collage. Were you aware that your can is an updated addition to the Volume I supplement?

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That's awesome, I'm glade I was able to contribute. I"m more into tabs, but I like the Colorado cans, that's how I wound up with this one. I was not aware of the supplement. With all the insight and knowledge on this forum I have a hard time bring myself to pay the BCCA dues. But the more I get back into the hobby it seams like access to there reference material would be worth it? I'm curious, does the supplement give a value like the books and/or rarity for the different lids,soft tops,vanity ?

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Post by MI-Cans » Wed May 02, 2018 7:35 pm

JustJoe,

The Supplements that I refer to are the online versions of the BCCA books. Volume I is actually the Book of Flats, Crowns, Cones, etc. Volume II is the Tab Book. And Volume III is the New Cans Supplement (nearing 20,000 entries!!). They're all excellent references and they are all being worked on. I believe BCCA membership is required to access all three.

I did a screen dump of the page where your can is. You'll notice the red borders on the page. If the entire box is bordered, such as your can, it indicates that's a can that's not in the original publication. And there's a change in the number assignment to that can. If only the picture is bordered, that signifies that a picture is replacing the original picture. If only the text is bordered, that means there's new text for a can. New pictures generally indicate there should be 5 views of that can. There's no pricing of added cans.

If you want another source of reference, download Randy Karasek's BMV program. It's the largest archive of hobby/chapter publications ever assembled. What's even better, it FREE!!! Here's a link:

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Post by Ted Wolfe » Thu May 17, 2018 10:10 pm

Here are a few more
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I've only seen them on cans from Natick
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Buckhorn, doesn't get the logo featured like Hamms
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