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Plastic can wraps

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Just curious, is there any reason why you wouldn’t use can wraps for expensive on grade cans? Pictures often come out poorly, especially if the wrap is worn, but other than that, it seems like good protection. Thoughts


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In my opinion if I drop a $100-$2k can or my display falls i would want the protection the KanKeepers offer. Also may be far fetched but if dust or debris gets behind the wrap... small fleck of lid or seam rust it could scratch the can.
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I received my Goetz glass from Dan Moreans auction recently and it was packed in a Cankeeper! didnt know they made them for glasses
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Actually, I come down on the other side. I never used can wraps or can keepers on my primary/main/holy grail collection. While I understand the "protect the investment" viewpoint, personally I wanted my collection to take me back in time.....visualizing the can on a store shelf, or in someone's hands in the 30s drinking from it. I wanted to fully embrace the look, feel, and reality of the can. I want to touch it...it's mine, and I get to do that....nobody else. Wraps and keepers are like wearing a condom with your wife.
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Ditto what Rand said and Josh's ⬆️
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The beer can keepers are great for transport or short term storage. I really like them. I would never display cans in them, however.
I only use the can wraps for nice clean cans that may be handled by grubby paws at shows. I would not keep them on a can for more than a few days.
I don't like the idea of plastic being pressed against a painted surface long term. It will have an effect over time.
I say let those cans breathe.
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I just took a bunch of individual pictures of my collection and it appears that can wraps also make the can appear flawed when it's not. That kinda irritates me to have to explain that it really isn't flawed just odd marks and shadows because of the old wraps...
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I have EVERY one of my cans in either a wrap or a Can Keeper or even both. Anything I can do to protect them I will do...
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Sounds like this one falls into the personal preference category (AKA - You either prefer Coke or Pepsi?) :lol:
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I have always taken them off when dealers ship them wrapped, I don't like how they look on the cans and always worried about what may be trapped underneath the plastic. Depending on condition I use wd40 or Murphys wax to protect my ongrade cans so not worried about rust. I do sometimes use can keepers on the higher priced cans just in case they get knocked on the floor or something.
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I never use them...If they get dusty and they do.. oh well I get to use a feather duster and hand pick every can and look at them a again. If they fall and they do...well I do have carpet on the floor and get to look at them again. I don't mind spending an hour or so cleaning up my mess. It is better than doing the dishes.

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I like can keepers for my rusty nuggets with structural integrity issues. I thihk that if someone ever dropped my Gray Pilgrim, it would disintegrate.
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sgramling wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:44 am I like can keepers for my rusty nuggets with structural integrity issues. I thihk that if someone ever dropped my Gray Pilgrim, it would disintegrate.


Been there! Was following a series of Matt Menghini's auctions last year and I picked up a Rainier cone to check the variation. Well, it was the can Matt was selling. But then I dropped it and it basically split top from bottom along a faultline I had no idea was there. Managed to get the bid in with three seconds left and buy the upgrade as a replacement.

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Rand wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:41 pm Personally I wanted my collection to take me back in time.....visualizing the can on a store shelf, or in someone's hands in the 30s drinking from it.
Or being thrown into a trash pit by a family of nature lovers.
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"Wraps and keepers are like wearing a condom with your wife."

Outstanding analysis.

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A can wrap can make it easier to insert and remove a rusty can from a can tote compartment (or even a wine or beer box), particularly in cases where there's more pronounced rust on the body, thus creating more friction with the surrounding cardboard walls than, say, a higher grade can (not necessarily indoor) or one without nodules. Older totes, wherein the cardboard is more worn, are less likely to be an issue here. For transportation and protection in transit, yes, they are beneficial, as they provide an outer shell of some rigidity to absorb impact and pressure. And while not affording anywhere near as much protection from lateral impact as a clear tube, they will insert/remove from can totes, and they make the can more accessible (could be bad) to potentially interested parties.

The problem with can wraps for display purposes -- this is just an opinion, not a judgment -- is that they lend it a visual patina, making it a bit contrived. They (the cans) weren't sold that way, why display them as such. Leave it in situ. Also, most plastics contain petroleum by-products (aren't they all made from petroleum?). Moreover, I'm unclear if these wraps are chemically inert like archive polyester, e.g. Mylar, where stability is known and trusted for the product, providing long-term archival storage protection, and won't adversely interact with the chemistry of the paint or break down due to plasticizers (phthalates?). Maybe someone with more knowledge on the chemical stability of the wraps can address this?

Regardless, I wouldn't expose it to UV light long term, certainly. But then again, no collectibles should be under UV light -- incandescent only. Then again, a can wrap might be necessitated for a fragile can if, for whatever reasons, one of those clear tubes is deemed undesirable and leaving it on display sans wrap would be tempting fate. Maybe put it on the lowest shelf. I think the key, here, is not to overdue it wherein every can has a wrap. Moderation and you're golden.

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I Am betting that the chemical properties of the can wrap are much better than the chemical properties of the oils and such from fingerprints and handling without a wrap.
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Can wraps trap moisture and dust particles. I use Can Keepers for traveling, and leave the cans naked and free at home. Wraps and Keepers both significantly impede the viewing experience.

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I always remove the can wrap the second the can hits my shelf. I don't like them for the same reasons a number of people have said. Also, the primary thing on my personal hate list is any sort of stickers. I totally hate them and try and remove any evidence of them ASAP. The only stickers that I have ever left on a can (and this is only a very small number) are the "Dave Stark" stickers, figuring that they may have some real value to somebody. Matt
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