QUESTION FOR SODA EXPERTS

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QUESTION FOR SODA EXPERTS

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Bottoms Up cone tops were made by Coke...why didnt they make a Coca Cola cone top???

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Just an assumption here, but everyone was familiar with the bottle and didn't want to risk sales with a conetop.
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Coke did make Coke cone top test cans, 2 different Quarts & a 16 oz'er. thought I heard the Coke quart cone available on oveseas flights or something like that. LEON.
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Yes, I only have seen two of them in real life. Here's me holding one of them.
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The one your holding sold at auction for $15,000. a few years ago. LEON.
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Pretty rare cans in that photo VNV!!!!.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Leon wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:18 am The one your holding sold at auction for $15,000. a few years ago. LEON.
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You all are killing me!
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I knew about the quarts , I'm talking more about why they didn't put Coke in 12oz cones :smt017

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Dan - obviously we don't know this officially, but here's what makes sense to me. Coke and Pepsi controlled 99.5% of the Cola market (maybe more than that). They already had the entire market with bottles and flats. Their bottling lines were presumably running at 110% of efficiency running bottles to meet production (they couldn't bottle it fast enough), so no reason to be shifting a bottling line over to cones. Why shift to cones when you already can't meet demand selling with bottles? There really was no competition from anybody else re Cola. True that a lot of brands had a Cola product, but really that is not what the off brands were marketing. They were marketing the Orange, Root Beer, Grape, Black Cherry, Lemon Lime etc, and they would half *** throw in the Cola for grins but nobody would drink the dribble. If you remember when we were kids how gross the Cola would taste if you got something like Vess. That's why the Cola is for the most part the hardest flavor to come by for most of the brands. So I think the probable reason that they did not go to cones was they just didn't have a business justification to do so. Yes, Pepsi did some cones, but their heart was not in it and they stopped. My guess is that Pepsi probably ran cones on an old bottling line for a short time and realized it was not worth the effort.
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One more possibility - for reasons that I don't understand, a ton of the off brand soda was sold in six ounce cones and nine ounce cones, and the 12 ounce cones were an exception to the rule, although eventually the 12 ounce cans became popular. It may be that in the early days when the six and nine ounce cones were ruling, Coke and Pepsi didn't want to be bothered with it. By the time that 12 ounce cans became popular, they already had flat tops, so didn't want to bother with cones, similar to AB, Pabst, Hamms and some of the other big brewers who didn't bother messing with cones.
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Thanks for your insight :smt023
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