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Captain Ernest M. McSorley, 63

First Mate John H. McCarthy, 62

Second Mate James A. Pratt, 44

Third Mate Michael E. Armagost, 37

Wheelsman John D. Simmons, 60

Wheelsman Eugene O'Brien, 50

Wheelsman John J. Poviach, 59

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Chief Engineer George J. Holl, 60

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Deck Maintenance Paul M. Riipa, 22

Deck Maintenance Bruce L. Hudson, 22

Steward Robert C. Rafferty, 62

Second Cook Allen G. Kalmon, 43

Porter Frederick J. Beetcher, 56

Porter Nolan F. Church, 55

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The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy.

With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconson
As the big freighters go it was bigger than most
With a crew and the Captain well seasoned.

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ships bell rang
Could it be the North Wind they'd been feeling.

The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the Captain did, too,
T'was the witch of November come stealing.

The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the gales of November came slashing
When afternoon came it was freezing rain
In the face of a hurricane West Wind

When supper time came the old cook came on deck
Saying fellows it's too rough to feed ya
At 7PM a main hatchway caved in
He said fellas it's been good to know ya.

The Captain wired in he had water coming in
And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the words turn the minutes to hours
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd fifteen more miles behind her.

They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
In the ruins of her ice water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams,
The islands and bays are for sportsmen.

And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral
The church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.
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it was too rough for the cook to whip up some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the crew?

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When I was a child, I used to ride my bike down to the docks in Lorain, Ohio, and wait for the ore freighters to come in. For awhile, I thought working on an ore freighter would be the coolest job. Plus, you'd be off all winter while the lake is frozen. Can you say extended spring break in Florida???

Lorain had a basquele bridge that rose every time an ore freighter would come or go. Think of the opening scene of The Bob Newhart Show. Those bridges at a 45 degree angle on the river are basquele bridges. On the other side of the bridge was American Ship, where the ore freighters were built. The shipyard was owned by none other than George Steinbrenner. That's where he made the money he used to but the Yankees.

When I had a chance in 01, I bought a Pfeiffer can with the ore freighter on it. Kinda a nostalga trip, which I guess this thread is also.
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XCellKen wrote:
Lorain had a basquele bridge
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Bridge Inspector's note-- BASCULE :smt030
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ANGRY GARY wrote:it was too rough for the cook to whip up some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the crew?

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Here is a video of the Arthur M. Anderson's Captain Bernie Cooper's radio call to the Coast Guard Shortly after losing contact with Captain McSorley and the Fitzgerald.



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John S. wrote:
XCellKen wrote:
Lorain had a basquele bridge
:smt018

Bridge Inspector's note-- BASCULE :smt030
No wonder I couldn't find anything when I googled,except for a painting of a bridge by some guy that had that particular spelling. French v American???

BTW, when I was in Ohio in August, the BASCULE bridge in Lorain was closed for extensive repairs
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I guess the angle was greater than 45 degrees. For once in my life, I wasn't exaggerating
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Great posts guys! I remember I was doing my Detroit News paper route when I saw the headlines. I remember the experts saying how bad the storm must have been because by '75 freighters didn't sink anymore on the Great Lakes.
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Didn't have my paper route until 1978-79 so I guess I missed the boat (pun intended) LEON.
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ANOTHER SAYING: LIGHTS ARE ON BUT NOBODY'S HOME?
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The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they called 'Gitche Gumee'
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty.
That good ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early.

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconsin
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
With a crew and good captain well seasoned
Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ship's bell rang
Could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?
The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the captain did too,
T'was the witch of November come stealin'.
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the Gales of November came slashin'.
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
In the face of a hurricane west wind.

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'.
Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya.
At Seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in, he said
Fellas, it's been good t'know ya
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
And the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when his lights went outta sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searches all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her.
They might have split up or they might have capsized;
May have broke deep and took water.
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
In the rooms of her ice-water mansion.
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams;
The islands and bays are for sportsmen.
And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her,
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the Gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral.
The church bell chimed till it rang twenty-nine times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call 'Gitche Gumee'.
Superior, they said, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early!
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I have the same can, and I always thought it symbolized OHIO best!!!
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What.....Ohio??? Thats clearly the Mackinaw Bridge in the background separating Lake Huron and Lake MICHIGAN....and the Upper and Lower Peninsulas of The GREAT Lake State ;)
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True, but many of those ships were built in Ghio, and they used to bring iron ore to Ohio.
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Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New York and all the the St. Lawrence Seaway of Canada can take credit for the Awesomness that is Great Lakes Shipping!
For all the information you'll ever need, check out Boatnerd.com. I've been visiting that site since 1997. I used to contribute to the news page when my job took me along the Detroit River a few times a week. Now, I only cruise the shorline once a week and shipping has dwindled over the years so much, it's rare when i actually see one. Did catch the Buffalo last Wednesday.

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Bump, another year has past......RIP Gentlemen
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Been a year already
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Bump, another year has past......RIP Gentlemen
I concur! :sad:
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And now....35 years. Fare Thee Well Crew.
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I read just yesterday that the guy for whom the boat was named after--Edmund Fitzgerald, died only about 10 years ago or so, and that he had never HEARD the song!!! (according to the children of him). How can one go through life and not hear that song, even by chance?? And if one is associated with it like he was, how is that even possible?
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Another year allready again. LEON.
FAVORITE SAYING: WHY DUMP LOCALLY & FIND PROGRESS O/I's WHEN I CAN DRIVE A THOUSAND MILES AND FIND NOTHING.
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ANOTHER SAYING: LIGHTS ARE ON BUT NOBODY'S HOME?
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If you're interested in Great Lakes maritime history and happen to find yourself in the northeastern UP, this is a great place to visit. The artifacts and the lighthouse tour are worth the price of admission, and they also have a small theater set up where you can watch a very moving tribute to the Edmund Fitzgerald and the crew.

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Edmund Fitzgerald's bell in the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum. The bell was salvaged from the wreck on 7/4/1995.

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stringsx24now wrote:I read just yesterday that the guy for whom the boat was named after--Edmund Fitzgerald, died only about 10 years ago or so, and that he had never HEARD the song!!! (according to the children of him). How can one go through life and not hear that song, even by chance?? And if one is associated with it like he was, how is that even possible?
Maybe what I read was incorrect info.....But I know what I read.
I choke up everytime I hear that song........... :smt022
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Gordon Lightfoot certainly hit a homer with the song. I've seen the video on the dive to recover the bell, and it looked like the ship was just torn to pieces. Must have been one hell of a storm. Rest in peace.

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Re: The Legend Lives On.....

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Bumping once again....
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Re: The Legend Lives On.....

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Here's the website where the Museum probably got their model. This company makes incredible museum quality models of ships, planes, and trains. If you want your own copy of the Edmund Fitzgerald, it'll only cost you $9,500 bucks.

http://www.fineartmodels.com/fineartmod ... erald.html

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Re: The Legend Lives On.....

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Another Year again :shock:

I'm feeling OLD :shock:
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ANOTHER SAYING: LIGHTS ARE ON BUT NOBODY'S HOME?
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