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I was cleaning some cans last night and as per some advice I've been given and read.....I filled my cans with fresh water before dunking in oxalic acid. I understand the theory about why to do this, BUT: After checking the cans, the water in the cans was the same color as the acid bath. So I'm saying that after awhile, the acidic water gradually mixes in and displaces all that freshwater, which in turn, dillutes your acid mix. Is it really worthwhile to fill your cans with fresh water?
Can cleaning question
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Can cleaning question
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Re: Can cleaning question
Thats a rustmongers thing. This is where we have differences, he swears by it but im with you where i cant see where it would do anything different. The concept is so the acid wont work on the inside of the can and eat holes through (i think). I usually check my cans and scrub them several times during cleaning so i end up with the problem you have, diluting the acid and ruining the fresh water....with that said it really cant hurt anything so to each his own.
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Re: Can cleaning question
Another observation is that cold tap water (65 deg) is fairly ineffective at cleaning cans. At best, its a very slow process and the acid turns yellow/green fairly quick. However, I did slightly clean up some red label Acmes without bleaching the red. I'm guessing that you have to use warm water (80-90 deg) for better results and hot tap water for mystery cans.
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Re: Can cleaning question
Oxalic acid DOES NOT eat metal like citric does, so no worry there. I use water from the garden hose (I'm too lazy to get hot water from the bath tub) to clean my cans and it works well. Most cans come out within an hour, while some of the heavily rusted cans go 3-4 hours and maybe overnight if it's a mystery can. That being said, a 2nd acid bath can remove a little bit more and bring the can up a half a grade. The first bath loosens up things and then the 2nd bath can really work on the rust.
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Re: Can cleaning question
Thanks Ed......My workshop doesn't have running water, so I was using the garden hose too. What is your favorite mixing ratio? Seems like you need to be pretty strong with cold water. 1 cup per gallon....2 cups per gallon? Some say as much acid that you can get to dissolve.
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Re: Can cleaning question
I use a "good handful" of acid to a 2.5 gallon bucket.... I put the acid in the bottom of the bucket and then fill it with water - this usually mixes well. Were rubber gloves and saftey glasses so you dont get any splashes in you eye. I scrub the cans with a toothbrush after about 30 minutes to see how things are going. I scrub then again before taking out.
I use a bucket of fresh water to rinse the cans. I stick the hose in there on a dribble (as a continuous supply of water) and let the can sit in there for about 10-15 minutes. Dry cans in the shade.
I use a bucket of fresh water to rinse the cans. I stick the hose in there on a dribble (as a continuous supply of water) and let the can sit in there for about 10-15 minutes. Dry cans in the shade.
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Re: Can cleaning question
Bryan, Thanks for the can
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