IRTP/Non-IRTP Discussion Thread

[beercanman]

Scott,

I forgot to comment on the rarity of the ones I know. The Senate Bock non-IRTP is crazy tough. Only 2 known that I know of. And the Rheingold IRTP is equally tough. I think this is the only ongrade example, and think there's 1 offgrade known.

[Scott Rollert]

I'll be sure to add the comments. I was looking at my IRTP shelves & saw a number of candidates. Guess I'll have to look at my own collection...

[Scott Rollert]

Pairs I found on the shelves...

Blatz Beer 39-9/10. IRTP is on top lid.

Burgermeister Beer 46-30/31.

Drewry's Ale 55-26/28.

Hamm's Beer 79-18/19.

Highlander Beer 82-7/9.

Regal Pale Beer 120-36/37 .

Schlitz Beer 129-25/26.

Side panels.

Other IRTP's I don't have a non-IRTP of:
Blatz Beer 39-7/8
Blitz Weinhard Beer 39-25/26
Blitz Weinhard Beer 39-27/28
Blue 'n Gold Beer 39-38/40 withdrawn free 39-39
Eastside Beer 58-6/7
Edelweiss Beer 58-39/40
Embassy Club Beer 59-31/32
Horton Beer 84-5/6
Jax Beer 86-9/10
Prior Beer 116-40/117-1
Rainier Beer 117-37/38
Schaefer Beer 128-2/4

I'll archive these and add them to the next update.
I'll

[bantam10]

Did you check about the Prior can? I cant believe I forgot about the Drewrys ale as I have both on my shelf

[Scott Rollert]

I have the Prior listed in the above post. I actually dug the IRTP here in CO, and the USBC shows the same label in a non-IRTP version. So here's a question for you Ted, do you think the Falstaff cans should be included? I took pics, but then I realized there's a sizable difference with the Premium Quality band on the non-IRTP version. Or is it close enough to be included.

[bantam10]

I dont have USBC with me now, but if there is a variation change because of the change of statement change than I would say no.

[chaunasknight]

Scott:
You listed Blitz 39-25/26 and 27/28 as cans you have irtp versions of
I don't have a book with me but I am fairly certain there is only one Blitz that falls into this cataagory. I know the red letter one is listed as both irtp and non, but is believed to not actuallly be an irtp can. Is this the 27/28 you speak of? If so, you have an irtp one? Pictures please!

[Scott Rollert]

As I was looking over the shelves, I had mistakenly put the red letter on my IRTP shelf. I checked the can & saw no IRTP statement. My bad... I'll remove it from the list. Thanks for pointing that out Jeffery!

[gallons-walters]

To piggy back off of Scott's with regards to the Blatz 39-9 / 10, here are the same Blatz's with the IRTP statement on the side panel instead of the top lid.

[gallons-walters]

Another set of Blatz's 39-7 / 8

[gallons-walters]

Also Foxhead 66-7 / 8

[gallons-walters]

Also, my camera batteries just died and am recharging so no pictures at the moment, but Pabst had a trio of WF, IRTP and non-IRTP in the same label. 111-25...30

They are listed and shown in this RB thread.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23736

[Scott Rollert]

Thanks Brian! Great pics, keep that camera battery charged. The Fox Head is now archived for the next update.

[beercanman]

The Prior comes IRTP, non-IRTP, and WF. The WF is ultra rare.

[Scott Rollert]

Thanks for that nugget of info Steve. Prior in a withdrawn free version... very cool! I'll add that to the listing. I'm learning SO much from this thread.

[bantam10]

Since it has not been added yet, most the goebel wf cans are paintovers under oval grey drewrys cans

[Scott Rollert]

The Goebel is listed in the withdrawn free version, no mention of the paintover though.

[Flat_Top]

The Withdrawn Free Goebel Extra Dry, 70-34, has been found as a rub out under the silver Drewrys, 56-02. In addition to the Withdrawn Free statement there is a large "E" at the bottom left of the seam. The can has been found with two different canning codes, 23-A and 68-A.

The can I have, first can pictured below, came from the Lewandowski collection. It is not a rub out and has canning code 23-A. Until recently it was the only non-rub out example I knew of. But I remember reading on here that at least one other was found on a recent dumping trip. Here are pictures of both examples from Randy's MBC Info site.

[Scott Rollert]

Where else can you find detailed info like this? NO WHERE! I'll be sure to have this entered into the list with the next update.

[CMD]

add Schaefer 128-3 and 128-8

Rainier both from Seattle ans SPokane

Schmidts city club 130- 3/4

Horton 84-5/6

[Leon]

I did not see the Split Label gold Bud on list? LEON.

[Scott Rollert]

Thanks for the posts Dan & Leon. I'll add them with the next update.

Leon, where's the IRTP on the Bud?

[Leon]

Thanks for the posts Dan & Leon. I'll add them with the next update.

Leon, where's the IRTP on the Bud?

It's on the lid on can on left. Does that count? LEON.

[Scott Rollert]

It does count, I just want to know where it is for the comment column. Could you take a pic of the lid for archiving & post it here?

[Leon]

Here's a Pic of the lid. LEON.

[Scott Rollert]

Thanks Leon. Noted and archived for the next update.

[ronsmall]

I don't have an example of the more common non-IRTP handy, but here is the IRTP version of the Harvard Green Label Export Beer.
Extremely rare ongrade, possibly unique.

[Scott Rollert]

Thanks Ron. The can is already listed, but I'll add a note for the rarity of the IRTP with the next update.

[ronsmall]

Thanks Ron. The can is already listed, but I'll add a note for the rarity of the IRTP with the next update.

Hi Scott, Since I posted I found out about 2 more examples. Dave Lang has a dumper, and Keith Norton has a can that was found without a lid.
The neat thing is that all three cans were found within about a month of each other (a few years back) and are the only examples we know of.

[oldindiapaleale]

Here are some flat top updates:

Hampden Mild Ale 79-33/34
Krueger Cream Ale 89-31/33
Ruppert Ale 125-35/36
Ruppert Beer 126-9/10 white background (reported but not pictured)