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Olive Drab Discussion Thread

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Use this thread to add to the Master List

Known olive drab cans

FLAT TOPS:
Acme
Ballantine's
Beer
Blatz
Budweiser
Burgermeister - all known examples are rolled cans? - IRTP - USBC#96-29
Esslinger's Premium Beer - USBC #60-18
Falls City PHOTO - BCCA mag June/July '08 pg.31
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Krueger - believed to be unique.
Lucky Lager
Meister Brau - believed to be unique.
Miller PHOTO - BCCA mag Aug/Sep '05 pg.21 (~3 total known)
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Pabst - Mil
Pfeiffer's
Pfeiffers - slightly shorter & wider can PHOTO - BCCA mag June/July '09 pg.20
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Regal Pale - all known examples are rolled cans - IRTP
Rheingold
Schaefer
Schlitz
Schmidt's City Club
Sicks - IRTP (Sicks are the only OI cans)
Sicks - withdrawn (Sicks are the only OI cans)
Silver Fox - believed to be unique.

CONE TOPS:
Beer
Berghoff
Beverwyck
Blatz - JS
Blatz - HP
Breidt's
Burger Brau
Carlings Red Cap
Champagne Velvet
Dawson's
Duquense Can O Beer
F&S
Gold Medal
Golden Age LP
Grain Belt PHOTO - BCCA mag Feb/March '06 pg.21 (5 known?)
Iroquois JS
Rainier Club LP
Red Fox
Schlitz
Scmidt's
Utica Club

CROWNTAINERS:
Boston Light - not considered a true OD can (silver spout, diff.paint), unique.
Fitzgeralds
Fort Pitt
Hudephohl
Old Topper

SODA CANS (per nc sodapopkid)
RC test soda can
Hires 1 gallon syrup can

5 cans are not pictured in the USBC - Grain Belt cone, miller flat,
the newly discovered Pfeiffers, also info about the Falls City flat and
Dawson's cone was taken from a 1995 BCCA article by Dan Andrews.
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Re: OD CANS

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So what are the easiest can(s) of the OD variety to acquire?
I realize that some would say none are easy, but in relative terms, which ones can be acquired more easily than others?
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In the east, you see a lot of Ballantines, nearly all of which are rolled. You also see a fair number of Schaefers, including dumpers. You don't see many others.
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I've seen a few Duquesne OD cones & Fort Pitt Crowntainers in the past. Lucky Flats also. LEON.
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Transfered this thread from the Reference Forum.....8/6/12 - TRL
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We can start talking about variations, too. For example, the Goebel comes as an others pending can and a 3-patents can. Pretty sure there are quite a few others that come both ways ...
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This list is now available in an Excel spreadsheet. You will need MS Office to open it.

PM either Dave Wheaton or myself with an e-mail address for your copy.
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Send me the file, I can upload to the FTP for download, and convert to web format.
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File is on it's way... whatever you just posted sounds pretty cool!
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Pay no mind to the wizard behind the curtain... :mrgreen:

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Easiest to aquire:

Ballantine's (rolled), Schaefer and Fort Pitt crowntainer.

The Grand Prize used to be in the impossible category until a case was found in Texas about 10 years ago.

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I've heard the story that back in the 70's an antique deal in El Paso, TX received a shipment of antiques from England. To fill in dead space in the shipping container and prevent shifting, CASES of OD cans were used. The story was told by El Paso Rick who at the time had just started collecting cans and didn't have much money. He got a call from the antique deal who said if you can get to my store in 15 minutes you can have all these cans you want for something like $5.00 each. All Rick could raise was $10.00 so he bought 2 cans. The OD's were Lucky, Schaefer, Pfeiffer and I've heard a few Ballantines. To substantiate the story even further, I was looking though some late 70's World Wide Beer Can Collectors Club want ads recently and saw one from a collector in El Paso selling Lucky, Schaefer and Pfeiffer OD cans. This answers the question as to which OD cans are the easist to find.
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There is an error on the composite list. The composite shows the Fox Deluxe from Chicago as "NL." It should be 1-064-40-0 using the new BCCA numbering system or simply 64-40 the old way.
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Noted! I'll edit the list using the old number system.
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I have a Grain Belt Olive Drab Cone that is quite different than the one pictured in BCCA Monthly Feb/Mar 2006. Does anyone have any information on this?
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I'm thinking that is simply faded, not an OD
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I agree with idigrust - that's an IRTP can that is pretty much colorless. It had color when it was new.
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I had thougt that too, but all the one's listed in the USBC have a gold band with a red stripe around the top. In that place on the one I have it has "Internal Revenue Tax Paid" around the top where the gold/red stripe band should be.
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Where does the Budweiser OD rate ? A few have shown up on ebay but I seem to be second place each time.
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There are quite a few Bud ODs out there, but like the 007 cans they are very desirable. They go for pretty good cash.
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The Bud ODs always seem to have condition issues. I'd love to find one in the same condition as most 007s out there!
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I have tried to get an on- grade one, but I end up third or fourth on the bidding list. They are too damned desirable.
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o'sstrohs&nattybohs wrote:I had thougt that too, but all the one's listed in the USBC have a gold band with a red stripe around the top. In that place on the one I have it has "Internal Revenue Tax Paid" around the top where the gold/red stripe band should be.
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For another example of just how deceptive gold dulling can be, I'd refer to the hi-pro Altes cones (IRTP, from both Detroit and San Diego). There was an indoor find of the Detroit cans years ago, some of which can occasionally be seen with very even and complete dulling of the metallic gold. Even the Michigan specialists questioned their provenance for a time, but as alluded to in a previous post, the dead giveaway is that they're IRTP cans. There are some true OD flattops with so-called "Disregard" lids that amended the Withdrawn Free Of Internal Revenue Tax For Exportation statement to "Internal Revenue Tax Paid," ostensibly for retail sale in the USA, but to my knowledge ALL true olive drabs originally had the WF statement lithographed into the can design itself.
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Here are the two Schaefer OD variations. Difference is the Pats Pending and Pats numbers.
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Thanks for posting the pics! Variation noted and will be included with the next update.
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Can anyone confirm to me that the Ballantine OD comes in both a 2 patents and 3 patents variety. I have one variety but need to know in order to update my Ballantine composite list.
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You didn't say which variety you had. My rolled can is 2 patents others pending.
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My can is 2 patents, others pending and like many others, a rolled can.
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CMD's website has a picture of 2 completely different Acme OD's.


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I'm pretty sure that oddball Acme can't be confirmed as a can that held beer.
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