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Matt, I have a couple oners for you
Yess, I'm in a rut, but here's some Bocks I think are unique that haven't been mentioned:
Rheingold Bock Beer IRTP w 2 goats
Low Pro National Bohemian Bock
Budweiser Bock with green back panels instead of red (disqualified?)
All gold National Bock flat
and let's not forget the Pilsengold Bock!!!!
Can anyone say for sure whether either the OI or non OI version of the silver Jacob Ruppert Bocks are unique?
Rheingold Bock Beer IRTP w 2 goats
Low Pro National Bohemian Bock
Budweiser Bock with green back panels instead of red (disqualified?)
All gold National Bock flat
and let's not forget the Pilsengold Bock!!!!
Can anyone say for sure whether either the OI or non OI version of the silver Jacob Ruppert Bocks are unique?
Always looking for Bock Beer Cans - 1 or 100, mint or dumper.
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One can I 've trying to find another one of is the Gold Preminun Richbrau quart with the words Preminun and Beer in gold instead of white as on the much more common quart. This can matches the cone and flat which are among the tougher Richbrau variations to pick up. If anybody else out there has an example of this quart I would like to hear about it.
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CUT AND PASTED FROM ANOTHER THREAD (I'm not typing all this again)
There's a few in there I'd forgotten about like the blue Hudy J spout, we can add that to the list. We can also add the Steins Canadian Cream Ale, only unique can left from my hometown now that another Iroquois 1/2 & 1/2 turned up. I can't say for sure what else is unique on your list but I can knock a couple off. There are at least 3 Gibbons Bocks, the Orliebs Bock Ale is very rare but not uniquie, there's certainly more than one Mair barmaid cone, pretty sure the concave bottom Red Lion isn't unique but I don't know that for sure, I don't think a Vita Brew cone, the Shepps or Sungold flats have surfaced yet, and there's at least two Waldorf Golden Bocks. What about Libby's Beer, was that a real can? I remember seeing a picture once.
Here's Matt's list from the other thread with a couple additions.
Tiger OI
Hillman's OI #1
Hillman's OI #2
Autocrat no mandatory (if the others were obtainable this probably wouldn't make the list)
Manhattan Bock (wasn't one version still unique? Again, wouldn't make the list if the other variation weren't as tough as it is)
Butte Special lopro
Royal Finest lopro
Pink Kato
Black Schlitz FBIR
Hohenadel Bock (the known 70's dumper apparently broken to bits and gone)
Trent Cream Ale J (currently being courted from a non-collector)
Falstaff crown
Schlitz crown
Bud crown
Boston Light 'little brown jug' crown
Trent Cream Ale crown
Treat Cream Ale qwat
White Cap qwat
Perone qwat
Golden Age (PA) qwat
Miller OD
White Altes crown
Cardinal gold/white?
Steins Canadian Cream Ale
Light blue Hudephol J spout
Isn't Uncle Dicks Eblings qwat a one of a kind?
Lion Bock
I know there's more (hard to believe, for the first time ever, the Class can isn't heading the list).
Has the Trent Cream Ale J spout been confirmed?? Hadn't heard about that one but I would imagine it exists.
how about these cans, barbarossa ct withdrawn free. brandts lp, clipper ct high profiile, gibbons bock lp, grahms ale lp, hudepohl js baby blue can, m.c. cream ale lp, maier select bar maid can lp, national bock lp, ortliebs bock,ale js, red lion concave bottom, the cap sealed ale can, red fox ale hp silver faced can.spearman draft hp, vita brew hp, white cap lp, flat tops the schepps beer, sun gold and waldolf bock. what about these.
There's a few in there I'd forgotten about like the blue Hudy J spout, we can add that to the list. We can also add the Steins Canadian Cream Ale, only unique can left from my hometown now that another Iroquois 1/2 & 1/2 turned up. I can't say for sure what else is unique on your list but I can knock a couple off. There are at least 3 Gibbons Bocks, the Orliebs Bock Ale is very rare but not uniquie, there's certainly more than one Mair barmaid cone, pretty sure the concave bottom Red Lion isn't unique but I don't know that for sure, I don't think a Vita Brew cone, the Shepps or Sungold flats have surfaced yet, and there's at least two Waldorf Golden Bocks. What about Libby's Beer, was that a real can? I remember seeing a picture once.
Here's Matt's list from the other thread with a couple additions.
Tiger OI
Hillman's OI #1
Hillman's OI #2
Autocrat no mandatory (if the others were obtainable this probably wouldn't make the list)
Manhattan Bock (wasn't one version still unique? Again, wouldn't make the list if the other variation weren't as tough as it is)
Butte Special lopro
Royal Finest lopro
Pink Kato
Black Schlitz FBIR
Hohenadel Bock (the known 70's dumper apparently broken to bits and gone)
Trent Cream Ale J (currently being courted from a non-collector)
Falstaff crown
Schlitz crown
Bud crown
Boston Light 'little brown jug' crown
Trent Cream Ale crown
Treat Cream Ale qwat
White Cap qwat
Perone qwat
Golden Age (PA) qwat
Miller OD
White Altes crown
Cardinal gold/white?
Steins Canadian Cream Ale
Light blue Hudephol J spout
Isn't Uncle Dicks Eblings qwat a one of a kind?
Lion Bock
I know there's more (hard to believe, for the first time ever, the Class can isn't heading the list).
Has the Trent Cream Ale J spout been confirmed?? Hadn't heard about that one but I would imagine it exists.
Another Hohenadel Bock J spout turned up a year or so (the one Marc has, not a NEW one) so there is an example currently existing.Hohenadel Bock (the known 70's dumper apparently broken to bits and gone)
I guess that would make it a known can without any known examples. Correct?
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I'd like anyone to chime in on some of these cans that I don't know anything about myself, second the motion, mention one not pictured in the book that they know about, dump finds, etc.
MC Ale there are at least two, the clean one in Boston and a dumper I placed with a NH guy.
The golden goat Natty Boh I know of at least two. Having seen that flat and the matching zip in one weekend I'm now sure my can is just smoked and not the real thing. But the one in the book is cleaner so at least two.
Anyone second the motion for the Natty Boh Bock lopro? Even if unique, I'm on the fence about hipro vs. lopro for such an exclusive list, esp since they're both prewar. With the Rheingold Bock Romine mentioned, it's only one word on the label different from the nearly as tough Double Pale Bock but that's more significant to me than a tax statement.
MC Ale there are at least two, the clean one in Boston and a dumper I placed with a NH guy.
The golden goat Natty Boh I know of at least two. Having seen that flat and the matching zip in one weekend I'm now sure my can is just smoked and not the real thing. But the one in the book is cleaner so at least two.
Anyone second the motion for the Natty Boh Bock lopro? Even if unique, I'm on the fence about hipro vs. lopro for such an exclusive list, esp since they're both prewar. With the Rheingold Bock Romine mentioned, it's only one word on the label different from the nearly as tough Double Pale Bock but that's more significant to me than a tax statement.
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Draper had a repaint of the propellor crown, I would guess it had the real thing underneath so I guess I'd like to know that. Leon didn't mention it so he probably knows of another.
Chief Oshkosh, I'd thought I wouldn't do color differences for this list to keep just the most distinctively different labels. I know that I haven't seen a white one, though, outside of the book.
Chief Oshkosh, I'd thought I wouldn't do color differences for this list to keep just the most distinctively different labels. I know that I haven't seen a white one, though, outside of the book.
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I won't nominate this can for the list, because it is a true TEST CAN. But I can also guarantee that it is a unique label. The can itself is a 32 oz. straight steel tab, air filled with an art dept. hand drawn label. One of 3 different designs. See avatar pic to the left.
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Scott that looks kinda cool..post a bigger pic please.
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Bob McCoy had a nice indoor Propellor crowntainer, I've seen in person & love that can & want it. I know I heard there was at least one more & I assumed indoor but really do not know condition of the second one but I thought I heard 3 before so maybe 2 indoor & one dumper or 1 indoor & 1 dumper? Did'nt know Alex had a Repaint, Odd since he lives near me & usually tells me these things, Must be some secret? LEON.
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I was always under the impression that the silver Eblings Ale qwat (207-2) was unique. I'd always heard Dick had a one off that was rubbed from under a Wagners can and, since the USBC can appears to be a rubout (right down to the funky cap) I figured that was it. Am I wrong on this?? Anyone, anyone?? I'll admit, I know nothing about the big 'uns.Monger, Which Ebling qwart are you referring to as Uncle Dick's can? Is there another variation out there I don't know about? Inquiring minds want to know.
As far as flats go how about the Krueger OD, Finer Flaver Ale, and the gold Lion Beer? Are any of those unique? We can also add the paper label Associated to the list, pretty sure that's unique as an original can. Same goes with the Liebmans O/I. What about the white Rheingold Cream Ale? That may be unique but, like the gold Lion, is probably a test can.
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The Eblings White Head Ale in the USBC is the same one Dick A. rubbed out from under a Wagner's qwat. I picked up that 1940's Mapex Mothball lid cut out from an Eblings white head sheet, so at least we can confirm the color scheme was correct on Dick's.
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Why drive 12 hour one way to dig Pre-Tax Tru Blu ales, Genny 12 Horse Longopeners, Gamecock Ales, Apollos, Neuweilers Bock, and Krueger’s Baldies when you can locally drive 10 hours round trip and dig Pfeiffer, Goebel, Drewrys and Strohs?
Why drive 12 hour one way to dig Pre-Tax Tru Blu ales, Genny 12 Horse Longopeners, Gamecock Ales, Apollos, Neuweilers Bock, and Krueger’s Baldies when you can locally drive 10 hours round trip and dig Pfeiffer, Goebel, Drewrys and Strohs?
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Well, this is the first I've heard of the supposed Trent Cream Ale J-spout....I heard that it was a Trenton Beer. Guess I better make a call and verify that.
Anyhow, I didn't see the Ortlieb's Ale Crowntainer listed above, and I believe that's unique. Ditto for the Wacker Beer J-spout. The Lion Bock is "lost"; the picture in the new book is a scan from the Class Book because nobody knows what happened to the can. I believe there are two Liebmann's Beer OI's. The Brandt's LP cone is an obvious fake, the Red Lion concave is not unique, the gold Lion Beer is a rolled short sheet, the yellow Goldenrod is a drinking mug, the non-OI Jacob Ruppert is not unique (I don't think the OI is either), and the "black" Schlitz is a deep metallic purple.
And, below is a photo of the Hohenadel Bock that I was fortunate enough to end up with after it turned up a couple of years ago.
Marc
Anyhow, I didn't see the Ortlieb's Ale Crowntainer listed above, and I believe that's unique. Ditto for the Wacker Beer J-spout. The Lion Bock is "lost"; the picture in the new book is a scan from the Class Book because nobody knows what happened to the can. I believe there are two Liebmann's Beer OI's. The Brandt's LP cone is an obvious fake, the Red Lion concave is not unique, the gold Lion Beer is a rolled short sheet, the yellow Goldenrod is a drinking mug, the non-OI Jacob Ruppert is not unique (I don't think the OI is either), and the "black" Schlitz is a deep metallic purple.
And, below is a photo of the Hohenadel Bock that I was fortunate enough to end up with after it turned up a couple of years ago.
Marc
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Joe, don't know if this helps or not but this is the Beer Can Close Up I did on that can a couple years back.
Hohenadel Bock Beer.
John Hohenadel, Philadelphia. PA
12 oz IRTP J spout cone top. Date: the spring of either 1938 or 1939?
“Well earned supremacy”
Bock cans are some of the most desirable cans in our hobby due to often striking graphics and their limited availability. While many Bocks enjoy a great reputation and some even achieve “Holy Grail” status among collectors very few are surrounded by as much mystique as the Hohenadel Bock J spout.
For years the only known Hohenadel Bock was a very poor conditioned example shown in the black and white section of the “Class Book of US Beer Cans”. Many thought the can to be a fake, a repainted or otherwise altered Hohenadel Beer can. Not only was the cans owner and whereabouts unknown but the cans very existence was being questioned. For years several collectors searched in vain for the cans owner, trying to hopefully pry the can from his collection with no luck. One story kept emerging; the can no longer existed. While surrounded in mystery, and never confirmed, the general consensus was that the can was being displayed on a high shelf when something caused it to fall and break into pieces. One of the hobby’s most prized cans was lost forever.
Fast forward to this past fall and an e mail received out of the blue by an East coast collector. A Philadelphia woman’s home was having an addition put on and some of her cinder block walls were exposed during the construction. In these blocks were a lot of old beer bottles and even a few old cans. The homeowner e mailed the collector asking if he’d be interested in any Schmidt’s “Silver Noggin” crowntainers in pretty good condition or a cone top she’d never heard of called Hohenadel Bock Beer; she also mentioned having assorted old bottles available as well. After so many years and so much mystery and rumor a Hohenadel Bock J spout had finally been found!
It was now time to make arrangements as to who would be the proud owner of this newly found treasure. After some phone calls and a little fundraising, J spout specialist, Marc Tracy can now lay claim to the title of owner of his dream can. Marc has what is almost certainly the world’s most complete collection of J spouts and has always said the Hohenadel Bock was his most wanted can. After years of trying Marc was finally able to put the little red eyed goat on his shelves!
Hohenadel Bock Beer.
John Hohenadel, Philadelphia. PA
12 oz IRTP J spout cone top. Date: the spring of either 1938 or 1939?
“Well earned supremacy”
Bock cans are some of the most desirable cans in our hobby due to often striking graphics and their limited availability. While many Bocks enjoy a great reputation and some even achieve “Holy Grail” status among collectors very few are surrounded by as much mystique as the Hohenadel Bock J spout.
For years the only known Hohenadel Bock was a very poor conditioned example shown in the black and white section of the “Class Book of US Beer Cans”. Many thought the can to be a fake, a repainted or otherwise altered Hohenadel Beer can. Not only was the cans owner and whereabouts unknown but the cans very existence was being questioned. For years several collectors searched in vain for the cans owner, trying to hopefully pry the can from his collection with no luck. One story kept emerging; the can no longer existed. While surrounded in mystery, and never confirmed, the general consensus was that the can was being displayed on a high shelf when something caused it to fall and break into pieces. One of the hobby’s most prized cans was lost forever.
Fast forward to this past fall and an e mail received out of the blue by an East coast collector. A Philadelphia woman’s home was having an addition put on and some of her cinder block walls were exposed during the construction. In these blocks were a lot of old beer bottles and even a few old cans. The homeowner e mailed the collector asking if he’d be interested in any Schmidt’s “Silver Noggin” crowntainers in pretty good condition or a cone top she’d never heard of called Hohenadel Bock Beer; she also mentioned having assorted old bottles available as well. After so many years and so much mystery and rumor a Hohenadel Bock J spout had finally been found!
It was now time to make arrangements as to who would be the proud owner of this newly found treasure. After some phone calls and a little fundraising, J spout specialist, Marc Tracy can now lay claim to the title of owner of his dream can. Marc has what is almost certainly the world’s most complete collection of J spouts and has always said the Hohenadel Bock was his most wanted can. After years of trying Marc was finally able to put the little red eyed goat on his shelves!
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Thanks for the info Monger! That must have been found a few months before I got back into collecting. I didn't know the can existed other than the Class black and white photo I used to stare at over and over again during my first collecting days back in the 80's. That can definitely qualifies as "holy grail" material.
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Golden Rod beer shown in Class does look like a cup but Harvey Lambert had perfect body blanks of each kind at Chicago in 1981. John Conrad was shopping them around about 1992-3 and that was the last I heard of them (I think it was $4000 for the pair)...... Andy
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Here is a bigger pic of the Coors 32 oz. TEST CAN...
I got this and some other cans from a guy that worked at Continental can co. He was supposed to destroy the 3 Qt. test cans, but didn't. I don't know who has the other 2, but all 3 were different label designs. The label is a hand lettered paper label wrapped around the can with an acetate sheet over it. I will never muster the cajones to see if there some other label under it...
I got this and some other cans from a guy that worked at Continental can co. He was supposed to destroy the 3 Qt. test cans, but didn't. I don't know who has the other 2, but all 3 were different label designs. The label is a hand lettered paper label wrapped around the can with an acetate sheet over it. I will never muster the cajones to see if there some other label under it...
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Does anybody want to hazzard a guess as to the Krueger Special Beer? There was a rumor (and a photograph) of one taken around 1985. I think that there are a few advertisements as well. If you believe the book, there are, what, 5? If not, is it a one-only can? Aybody have any thoughts? This is one can that I'd love to at least see a picture of, or be happy to know that it exists in a collection. I'll most probably never own one, but who knows?
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I would not add the Blitz cone-top. There are two and they are both appear to be relidded flat tops.
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With regard to the L/P White Cap cone from CT, there are probably 5 or more around. I've been to a dump in NH where Ken Ostrow dumped a few of them many years ago. Got some nice cans there but no White Caps. However, I did subsequently dump one of my own in MA. Mine is not the one in USBC . I've never heard of an ongrade one. Dave