Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
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Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
So, here I go, well out on a limb, ready to start sawing..... I managed to pick up labels of both Einbock and Harlequin by the Arizona Brewing Co recently - didn't even know they ever made those brands until I scooped them quite reasonably. SO. I made a Brand list for AZ brewing using the Post Pro Brand book, Ed Sipos' AZ book, Kay's Western Labels, and my collection (plus online images) and came up with 29 brands that AZ made between 1933 and 1963/64.
For what ever reason, taking the Brand Book at face value Arizona was first to brew both of these brands in 1958 Einbock and 1959 Harlequin (both made by AZ until 63/64). Maier and Walter stuff came later... So did they create these? and is it possible a flat top or Zip top can was ever made by AZ of these otherwise pretty common brands?
I'll keep sawing- Another intriguing possibility comes from the Ruser cans (can someone tell me if there is a bird pictured on either side of the 12 or 16 oz flattops?). There is a bird on one of the variations of the paper labels I have AND they also made a label for Lark Beer (which I need and would love some help here). A longer long shot I admit but could there be a Lark Beer flat or zip out there too? They did make Lancers and Lanser's about this time so maybeeeee????
There are two other brands listed that I have never even heard of and would love if anyone has a label or even a pic: Chief (1938-46) and Tumac (which has to be a typo for the town of Tubac I would thin) that they made from 1933-1949. Both of which are from the Hopi-Apache era.... Too much to ask that an LP Chief cone from Arizona was ever made.... or is it.....
I'll scan some labels and get some more pics added to this... Welcome any thoughts (will send Ed S. an email too)...but of course will be checking every single Einbock and Harlequin can forever now with no hope at all Andy
For what ever reason, taking the Brand Book at face value Arizona was first to brew both of these brands in 1958 Einbock and 1959 Harlequin (both made by AZ until 63/64). Maier and Walter stuff came later... So did they create these? and is it possible a flat top or Zip top can was ever made by AZ of these otherwise pretty common brands?
I'll keep sawing- Another intriguing possibility comes from the Ruser cans (can someone tell me if there is a bird pictured on either side of the 12 or 16 oz flattops?). There is a bird on one of the variations of the paper labels I have AND they also made a label for Lark Beer (which I need and would love some help here). A longer long shot I admit but could there be a Lark Beer flat or zip out there too? They did make Lancers and Lanser's about this time so maybeeeee????
There are two other brands listed that I have never even heard of and would love if anyone has a label or even a pic: Chief (1938-46) and Tumac (which has to be a typo for the town of Tubac I would thin) that they made from 1933-1949. Both of which are from the Hopi-Apache era.... Too much to ask that an LP Chief cone from Arizona was ever made.... or is it.....
I'll scan some labels and get some more pics added to this... Welcome any thoughts (will send Ed S. an email too)...but of course will be checking every single Einbock and Harlequin can forever now with no hope at all Andy
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
Would someone with Ruser cans, esp the 16oz if it matches the label, mind taking a look if the bird like the Lark label is on either? thanks...
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
No bird on the side of my 12 oz. Ruser, just the pine tree branches he's sitting on. Don't have a 16...
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lots of branches - no birdies on either variation of the 16
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
Kinda figured the Lark was a longer shot - guess it would have to fly from the Label to get to a can... Thanks for looking at the Rusers.... Storz- what is the difference in the 16ozs?
Has even a zip Einbock or Harlequin been seen from any brewery (Maier, Walter's CO)?
Has even a zip Einbock or Harlequin been seen from any brewery (Maier, Walter's CO)?
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
the two 16oz Ruser variations
Right can I've had for about 10 years - the left can I picked up in GG Auction a week ago. It was Gene Judd's can.
Fronts are same
No contents on seam vs contents on seam is variation. Not sure how long this can produced - but not very long based on scarcity I'd say, so that they made a change in that short period is interesting.
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Right can I've had for about 10 years - the left can I picked up in GG Auction a week ago. It was Gene Judd's can.
Fronts are same
No contents on seam vs contents on seam is variation. Not sure how long this can produced - but not very long based on scarcity I'd say, so that they made a change in that short period is interesting.
My former shelf can of the one I got in the auction is looking for a new home.
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
Hey Andy, To the best f my knowledge, both Einbock and Harlequin were created by the AZ Brewing Co. I have never seen them in can version however from the Arizona Brewing Co., not even in test cans. Lark was just a bottled brand, don't know much beyond the labels. RE: Chief... I never heard of by AZ. Do you have any confirmation on it? Tumac I have tried to research and came up with zero. I always assumed it was short for Tumacacori, a small town near Nogales. There are a few crowns out there (attached a pic of mine) It would have been produced during the mid-1930s, and no later than 1940 or so. Sorry that's about all I have to offer.
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
Wow, great cap. Tumacacori makes sense... Tumac alone not so much but I get it.... The Chief is listed in the American Brands book but that is all i have ever seen even mentioning it. If a duplicate Tumac, or that Apache cap ever turns up you have a ready customer in FL!
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Re: Could Flat or Ziptop Einbock or Harlequin Cans by Arizona Brewing Exist?
Will do Andy. Off grade Apache crown's pop up on eBay on occasion. Very hard to find clean. I assume "Chief" likely came up somewhere down the line as a nickname for Apache back in the day by some individuals. I have never seen evidence of it being a brand issued by the brewery, but could be wrong.