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Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:51 am
by Cap-Sealed
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Saw this beauty on Facebook. Newly discovered, best known Miller Olive Drab....this makes 3 known!

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:33 am
by Leon
WOW, :shock: :shock: :shock: That's nice, Kurt better save up some Money. LEON.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:40 pm
by Paul Nelson
That’s impressive

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:28 pm
by Cap-Sealed
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Here's Steve Gordon's for comparison. Definitely looks like a different paint job or finish.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:00 pm
by kamsquared
Ed, do you still have the 3rd one?

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:36 pm
by Cap-Sealed
Yes,,,,

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:31 am
by barfly
Hopefully; more on story/find still to come. Only thing I have to add is that this is not only a Holy Grail Wisconsin can but could be called a Holy Grail Olive Drab can or just simply called "A HOLY GRAIL" can. :smt007 :smt007 :smt007 :smt007 Fantastic discovery!!!! The Hits keep on coming, last year the Krueger Special and now this in 2019. What's next? What a Hobby! :smt029

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:23 am
by Cap-Sealed
It's Steve the Xman can.... I dont know any details yet. I'll try to find out.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:24 am
by Ziphippie
Here’s the view from my seat-
I saw the can listed in a sale near Schaumburg,Ill early Tuesday morning- alerted kamsquared, waited until 9am and tried to schedule a preview(as it was offered), the Friday before the sale. No reply by noon so I left another message. No reply. Near the end of the work day I made a crazy offer via text. Immediately I get the call.... a better offer was made.
I wasn’t going to meet that number but told the guy running the sale if it falls through......I’d be the first in line on sale day. Ziphippie

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am
by Ziphippie
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Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:34 pm
by kamsquared
hover31 wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:24 am Here’s the view from my seat-
I saw the can listed in a sale near Schaumburg,Ill early Tuesday morning- alerted kamsquared, waited until 9am and tried to schedule a preview(as it was offered), the Friday before the sale. No reply by noon so I left another message. No reply. Near the end of the work day I made a crazy offer via text. Immediately I get the call.... a better offer was made.
I wasn’t going to meet that number but told the guy running the sale if it falls through......I’d be the first in line on sale day. Ziphippie
The back story on how this OD Miller got mixed up with all of the other $1 cans in this collection would be interesting. It may have gone under the radar if it didn't have "Old Beer Can Collection" right in the listing.
Here is the link to the auction....I assume the other cans are still there?
https://www.estatesales.net/IL/Streamwood/60107/2130360

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:31 pm
by Cap-Sealed
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Looks like the pre-sale on the Friday before the sale got blown to HeLL!

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:06 pm
by chicagocans
Story I heard was that it was taken right off the canning line by a senior manager (of either Miller Brewing Co. or the can company), who displayed the can in his office for many years. It was then passed down to his heirs, one of whom eventually sold the can to the most recent owner/seller some time ago. Sounds plausible and would help explain the astounding condition of the can.

I hope the BCCA magazine and/or Rustlings does a feature article on the can and its history before it gets "locked up" again. Truly a monumental, once-in-a-lifetime find . . .

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:36 pm
by Leon
Cap-Sealed wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:31 pm estate.PNG
Looks like the pre-sale on the Friday before the sale got blown to HeLL!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 2 weeks before the presale it already say's sold on the website. I guess people will make a exception for enough money, which I wonder what was enough money for them? To a non beer can collector a $1,000.00 might sound like alot of money for a old empty can or even a full can with old non drinkable beer. LEON.

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 pm
by OhioCanGuy
Leon wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:36 pm
Cap-Sealed wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:31 pm estate.PNG
Looks like the pre-sale on the Friday before the sale got blown to HeLL!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 2 weeks before the presale it already say's sold on the website. I guess people will make a exception for enough money, which I wonder what was enough money for them? To a non beer can collector a $1,000.00 might sound like alot of money for a old empty can or even a full can with old non drinkable beer. LEON.
Is that what it sold for, $1k?

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:21 am
by mrlager428
OhioCanGuy wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 pm
Leon wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:36 pm
Cap-Sealed wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:31 pm estate.PNG
Looks like the pre-sale on the Friday before the sale got blown to HeLL!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 2 weeks before the presale it already say's sold on the website. I guess people will make a exception for enough money, which I wonder what was enough money for them? To a non beer can collector a $1,000.00 might sound like alot of money for a old empty can or even a full can with old non drinkable beer. LEON.
Is that what it sold for, $1k?

To bad it's not an OI?!?.....I would think it sold for 5K or more! :smt007

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:55 am
by Leon
I have no idea what it sold for. just saying that to most non can collectors $1k sounds like a lot of money for any old beer can. Didn't you ever hear the non collector say they think a old beer can has no value if empty & it's gotta be full to be worth anything. LEON.

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:01 am
by Leon
I'm still waiting for the Black Miller Quart cone to pop up some day. LEON.

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:59 am
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:01 am I'm still waiting for the Black Miller Quart cone to pop up some day. LEON.
Man that is so Cool!! :shock: :smt007 ......I think that would be the Holy Grail Wisconsin Can!! :smt030

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:02 am
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:55 am I have no idea what it sold for. just saying that to most non can collectors $1k sounds like a lot of money for any old beer can. Didn't you ever hear the non collector say they think a old beer can has no value if empty & it's gotta be full to be worth anything. LEON.

This Can could also be desired by a WWII Memorabilia Collector....Not just Us Beer Can Collectors! :smt028

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:55 pm
by Leon
Yeah, But the WWII Collector would never pay as much as us Beer Can Collectors would.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:08 pm
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:55 pm Yeah, But the WWII Collector would never pay as much as us Beer Can Collectors would.
Well I have no idea as to who won the Auction I watched just recently for a Blatz OD J-Spout Shoe Polish Can...It went for just shy of 800.00....For a Can that didn't hold Beer.

I thought that's high but that's just My opinion!

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:34 pm
by Leon
most people don't know that those cans, Blatz & Iroquois never held beer.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:49 pm
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:34 pm most people don't know that those cans, Blatz & Iroquois never held beer.
My Blatz OD has a OD Blatz Crown on it...I assumed this one held Beer?....I see the Miller in this discussion is Air Sealed so it never was filled either I assume?

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:13 pm
by Leon
I've seen OD looking Blatz crowns for sale before.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:13 pm
by Cap-Sealed
mrlager428 wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:49 pm
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:34 pm most people don't know that those cans, Blatz & Iroquois never held beer.
My Blatz OD has a OD Blatz Crown on it...I assumed this one held Beer?....I see the Miller in this discussion is Air Sealed so it never was filled either I assume?
The Miller High Life Beer OD was filled.... I have a dumper of it.

Re: Holy Grail Wisconsin Can! Holy Smokes! Best Known!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:19 pm
by mrlager428
Cap-Sealed wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:13 pm
mrlager428 wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:49 pm
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:34 pm most people don't know that those cans, Blatz & Iroquois never held beer.
My Blatz OD has a OD Blatz Crown on it...I assumed this one held Beer?....I see the Miller in this discussion is Air Sealed so it never was filled either I assume?
The Miller High Life Beer OD was filled.... I have a dumper of it.
I mean the real clean Miller at the beginning of this Thread.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:27 pm
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:13 pm I've seen OD looking Blatz crowns for sale before.
I have always figured this is the origanal Crown!?!

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:37 pm
by Leon
mrlager428 wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:13 pm I've seen OD looking Blatz crowns for sale before.
I have always figured this is the origanal Crown!?!

It appears as though I can see remnants of black shoe polish on your cone. Take the cap off & peek inside or take cap off & smell it, does it smell like shoe polish? they actually smell more like varnish or paint. LEON.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:47 pm
by mrlager428
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:37 pm
mrlager428 wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Leon wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:13 pm I've seen OD looking Blatz crowns for sale before.
I have always figured this is the origanal Crown!?!

It appears as though I can see remnants of black shoe polish on your cone. Take the cap off & peek inside or take cap off & smell it, does it smell like shoe polish? they actually smell more like varnish or paint. LEON.
I will have to check it out...So then all of the Blatz J-Spouts were Shoe Polish Containers?....I didn't know that....I did know that they have been found under Shoe Polish Labels I just thought those were Cans that were left over after the War had ended.

I learn something new every Day!