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Re: Zip types

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Need an image of Heekin Canning Company intact zip top. A straight on shot would be preferred and show image of Heekin “logo’ to verify source.

Also need an image of National Canning Company intact zip top. A straight on shot would be preferred and show image of National “logo’ to verify source.

According to JAL, these zip tops were unique to those companies and somewhat different from other manufacturers. Images needed for reference article on Zip Top Lids.

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Re: Zip types

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Them are slightly different but really cool
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Re: Zip types

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Until you get some pictures from a better photographer, Here is a National zip
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and a Heekin zip
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Heekin must have used two slightly different zip tops. I don't have an intact one of the second variation but here are what the two lids looked like after they were opened
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Re: Zip types

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Here are two Reynolds Aluminum zip tabs....on aluminum cans.
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Re: Zip types

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Eric,
The shape of the opening is more like the shape of a fan than the beaker shape of a zip.

All the zips I've been looking at, are on straight steel cans. You've got two crimped aluminum cans there. Zips existed primarily from 1963 through 1965. Are those cans from that time period? A quick check of the ABC book shows that Tuborg design as a mid 70's version.

I can barely make it out but it looks like it says: "TAB DOES NOT COME OFF". Can these be stay-tab prototypes?

Surely, with collecting all the PNW cans, you've got one of those lids that's top opened. I'd like to see that opened one before I can say for certain whether or not I think that's a Zip or not. For now, I'm leaning towards...no, they're not zips.

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MI-Cans wrote:Eric,
The shape of the opening is more like the shape of a fan than the beaker shape of a zip.

All the zips I've been looking at, are on straight steel cans. You've got two crimped aluminum cans there. Zips existed primarily from 1963 through 1965. Are those cans from that time period? A quick check of the ABC book shows that Tuborg design as a mid 70's version.

I can barely make it out but it looks like it says: "TAB DOES NOT COME OFF". Can these be stay-tab prototypes?

Surely, with collecting all the PNW cans, you've got one of those lids that's top opened. I'd like to see that opened one before I can say for certain whether or not I think that's a Zip or not. For now, I'm leaning towards...no, they're not zips.

I welcome other opinions.

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Actually I’m going to have to agree with you .....it does say “tab does not come off” so I would assume that then this is a Proto type of the stay tab and not a zip tab. I don’t have any of these opened.

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Re: Zip types

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I was looking at my Zips from Tacoma, Washington. I noticed that I do have multiple types of zip tops on various cans of Heidelberg and Carling Black Labels.
There is a definite progression in the lids from no instructions to different wording to pat. pend. and multiple types of lids and lid colors.

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Re: Zip types

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keithker wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:12 am @oldmoneytexan @JAL @MI-Cans Has a BCCA article to help clarify Zip Tops ever been done? Sorry don't have BMV at the work computer. Much like the article that Kurt @kamsquared did on tab tops. Would it make sense to try and do a joint RB effort to try and put something small together and then make a reference to the composite list so that we can get a wider audience engaged in putting together the best composite list? Again, I believe this will be a valuable tool for any good hobbyist to have in his back pocket so that when he sees a can at a show he can have a better understanding of the validity of the can or if it has possibly been relidded or such......

Are either of these what you had in mind?

https://www.therustybunch.com/phpBB3/vi ... 57#p424357

https://www.therustybunch.com/phpBB3/vi ... 87#p425487


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