whatever became of that krueger special?

#1

Bcca mag. Said owner was taking it to convention. Heard nothing since

#2

It kinda retired after this post:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41713&p=366656l#p366656

#3

I realized just after convention that I heard not ONE WORD about this can at the gathering. Of course, I did not bring the topic up myself (slipped my mind), but you would think that something, anything, would have been said, showed, discussed, dissed....whatever. Maybe the topic of a special seminar, a giant blow-up picture of the can, or ......I don't know. THE most significant can of the hobby and as someone stated before: poof! and it is gone again.
If the article hadn't had the line about several major collectors eyeballing and verifying the can the one time, I would say red flags all around, but I will have to trust the people who saw/handled it.

#4

I was disappointed that it didn't show up at Canvention so us common collectors could at least view it and get a selfie.......and verify it's reality. I don't understand the collectors that squirrel cans away from the general collecting public like our eyes aren't worthy.
The largest demographic of beer can collectors are now 45-60 years old. After us there is a very small group of young folks that think beer cans are cool. In 20 years Bantam and young folks like him will have killer collections for cheap.
The Krueger can belongs in the Smithsonian.

#5

I have been notified that the Krueger's Special will be available for viewing on the trade floor of the IBC Show in Indy, Saturday November 4th.

#6

OctoberAle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:06 pm I have been notified that the Krueger's Special will be available for viewing on the trade floor of the IBC Show in Indy, Saturday November 4th.

That is very cool, and, would make sense as I believe the can now resides in the greater Indianapolis area.

Always a great show.

#7

http://beercanhistory.com/kruegers_special.html

#8

I was kind of hoping "the Dr." got the can. From what i seen in the past he had one killer OI collection with rarity and condition in mind and thought it would fit in best there. There has got to be only a handful of people able to afford such a can no?

Mike s

#9

I believe Gene Judd has the special on his shelf. I'm not sure what he paid for it.

#10

OctoberAle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:06 pm I have been notified that the Krueger's Special will be available for viewing on the trade floor of the IBC Show in Indy, Saturday November 4th.

I bet this show sees an attendance spike this year. It's a good show even without this attraction.

#11

i figured and glad gene judd got it. and not one of those secret closet colectors

#12

The rumor was $150k. It's just a rumor.

#13

Candog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:16 pm The rumor was $150k. It's just a rumor.

I've heard about a dozen rumors, but this is the largest one by far.

Marc

#14

And someone found it at a Estate sale in a box for $5.00. Nice Profit.

#15

Could you imagine finding that in an antique mall for 14.50 ?
getting to the register and paying for it would be the longest 12 seconds of my life .

#16

Candog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:16 pm The rumor was $150k. It's just a rumor.

I spoke with Gene at the Canvention and he showed me the can on his shelf. He wouldn't say exactly what he paid for it but he did say it was over $150,000. I believe it was $150,000 - $180,000.

#17

If I ever find an indoor Waldorf bock I know who to call!

#18

I spoke with Gene at Canvention also, but not about price. I figure if he wants me, or the world, to know, he'll let it out. There's really no comparison amongst cans that have sold in the past 30 years, but six figures seemed inevitable.

If I find a Waldorf Bock, it's going on my shelf.

Marc

#19

It will be interesting to see if the Krueger Special comes up for sale or is more of a private placement....along with the one of a kind Fox Deluxe.

#20

I would expect that Gene kept the Krueger's Special, though I don't know whether he did or not.

What do you mean by "came up for sale" exactly? Nothing has been listed as for sale anywhere yet, but cans are moving now that the email blast went out a couple days ago. Is this activity "private placement" or "up for sale"?

Marc

#21

I heard second hand that the Krueger's Special was available as of yesterday. I believe the asking price was being withheld for only serious buyers - as in "are you going to buy it?", and was not being divulged otherwise, which makes sense to me. And although some claims have been made on this site and elsewhere as to what Gene paid for it, I believe those claims, all of them, to be inaccurate.

#22

OctoberAle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:45 pm And although some claims have been made on this site and elsewhere as to what Gene paid for it, I believe those claims, all of them, to be inaccurate.

I spoke to Gene about the can at a show, and he told me as much. He was baffled as to where the numbers were coming from. The same thing happened when the nice Class Beer sold. Several guys threw wildly different numbers around, apparently thinking they would be thought of as "cool" because they revealed a number that was theoretically revealed to them (and them alone) in confidence. I'm not sure how that adds up.

Marc

#23

I have my own ideas about both cans based on various clues, hints, and tidbits gleaned over the years from the buyers, but I do not know the actual purchase price of either. I just don't think Gene ever divulged the figure. Gene called me from the road on the way back home from Oklahoma with the can in his possession, unable to contain his excitement, but he never stated definitively what he paid. As in all such matters, I understand that I could be wrong on every count.

#24

Clarkston1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:29 pm It will be interesting to see if the Krueger Special comes up for sale or is more of a private placement....along with the one of a kind Fox Deluxe.

I have read about the Krueger Special but would like to know mire about the rarity of the Fox Deluxe?

#25

Pbama wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 pm
Clarkston1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:29 pm It will be interesting to see if the Krueger Special comes up for sale or is more of a private placement....along with the one of a kind Fox Deluxe.
I have read about the Krueger Special but would like to know mire about the rarity of the Fox Deluxe?

The Fox Deluxe was pictured in print advertising, but was not known to exist until this example turned up a few years ago. It came out of a collection that also included the only ongrade Dingle Bay Cream Ale that has surfaced in the hobby thus far.

Marc

#26

mtracy64 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:51 pm The Fox Deluxe was pictured in print advertising . . .

I have seen the ad before but I do not recall where it appeared. Was it in newspapers? On Newspapers.com perhaps?

#27

pinnacle-project wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:59 pm
mtracy64 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:51 pm The Fox Deluxe was pictured in print advertising . . .
I have seen the ad before but I do not recall where it appeared. Was it in newspapers? On Newspapers.com perhaps?

It was pictured in a couple different color ads in industry trade magazines like Modern Brewer or Brewer's News in late 1936. I'm not at home and don't have the photos on my phone. One of them is in the USBC-OI, and I believe Leon has one or both of the original trade magazines. The ad shown in USBC-OI also show the Hillman's OI that was unknown for so long. The Regal OI is shown as well, and the ad was known before the cans turned up 1980-ish.

I'm too stupid to figure out how that @Leon thing works, but I'm sure he'd be happy to post the ads if he reads this.

Marc

#28

Here's the ads in Question, The one Ad is a 2 page Ad, Exact same one I supplied to Kevin Lilek for his O/I Book which he then had made into a 1 page Poster. LEON

P.S. Sorry for the watermark.

#29

Leon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:41 pm Here's the ads in Question, The one Ad is a 2 page Ad, Exact same one I supplied to Kevin Lilek for his O/I Book which he then had made into a 1 page Poster. LEON

P.S. Sorry for the watermark.

Thanks, Leon. I didn't know Kevin got that from you. It had appeared in a can book in black and white decades ago, and I didn't realize it was a color ad until Dave Lewandowski showed me a photo he had taken of one.

Marc

#30

mtracy64 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:51 pm
Pbama wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 pm
Clarkston1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:29 pm It will be interesting to see if the Krueger Special comes up for sale or is more of a private placement....along with the one of a kind Fox Deluxe.
I have read about the Krueger Special but would like to know mire about the rarity of the Fox Deluxe?
The Fox Deluxe was pictured in print advertising, but was not known to exist until this example turned up a few years ago. It came out of a collection that also included the only ongrade Dingle Bay Cream Ale that has surfaced in the hobby thus far.

Marc

Wow! Thanks Marc, assume the Dingle Bay is the same one that made it to Gene’s collection?

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