ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
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ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Noticed this auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABC-OLD-ENGLSH- ... 2c9acf47c9
This can is the same one that sold back in 2011 http://www.ebay.com/itm/280668853589?rmvSB=true
One pic of the 2011 auction can be found here http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/20 ... r-can.html 4
Found another pic of the old auction here http://www.whatsellsbest.com/Assets/Ima ... er-can.jpg
The sellers account may have been hacked. No seller feedback and only one buyer feedback in the last 6 months.
Already one bid retraction, so the word may be getting out. Caveat emptor.
This can is the same one that sold back in 2011 http://www.ebay.com/itm/280668853589?rmvSB=true
One pic of the 2011 auction can be found here http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/20 ... r-can.html 4
Found another pic of the old auction here http://www.whatsellsbest.com/Assets/Ima ... er-can.jpg
The sellers account may have been hacked. No seller feedback and only one buyer feedback in the last 6 months.
Already one bid retraction, so the word may be getting out. Caveat emptor.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Agreed. Notice the exact feedback wording left by multiple sellers/bidders. These are probably accounts created by the same person or fraud group. No way so many different people could randomly use the exact wording. It is probably the same person with different accounts.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Interesting.
And it's listed on ebay under the category Breweriana > Lables. Could be an honest mistake I suppose, but if it doesn't look right, then...
And it's listed on ebay under the category Breweriana > Lables. Could be an honest mistake I suppose, but if it doesn't look right, then...
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Right after this auction ended back in 2011 it was relisted again as a scam. Looks like maybe someone waited 4 years to pull the same scam? LEON.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Mine was the bid retraction. I got excited when I saw it and bid right away. I then quickly did some research as it seemed to good to be true, listed in wrong category, no reserve etc. The exact same feedbacks from different people from China, Japan, USA told me immediately it was a fraud. I contacted Kotto and we discussed and agreed it was more than likely a bad auction. it seem with only bid others agree and have stayed away from it. Buyer beware.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Location of the item is listed as Santa Clara, CA. That is about 2 hours from me and is close to where Rawley lives. If someone were to win, insist on an in person pick up. This area is also where a certain former collector with some issues lives... someone that has scammed many people in the past, including some on this board. I'd say there is a 95% chance it's him. -Mike
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Yeah something about them smoking crack might be more like it....now at $4000 in two bids......they really think somebody is going to match that.........nothing like trying to support a crack habit I guess......
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Mike Wilbur wrote:Location of the item is listed as Santa Clara, CA. That is about 2 hours from me and is close to where Rawley lives. If someone were to win, insist on an in person pick up. This area is also where a certain former collector with some issues lives... someone that has scammed many people in the past, including some on this board. I'd say there is a 95% chance it's him. -Mike
Thanks Mike, Yes I live maybe 2 minutes from Santa Clara. Here to help. Just let me know
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Someone either got a good deal at $4500 or is in for a real surprise if they don't make the exchange in person like someone posted earlier.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
The auction has completely disappeared. I can't pull it up under the link anymore. I hope somebody didn't get taken.
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Re: ABC OLD ENGLSH TYPE ALE - Fishy Auction
Lol... Nobody got taken, I was notified immediately by eBay upon the auction ending that it was a third party fraud. Message below:
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