Pre-War Pot Luck Box arrival post

[eddieguitarloebs]

Sorry if i was in error,i just felt that even though the Old Style is a much tougher can it would be close....it has a new lid, all of "Style"and maby even part of the D were flt markered in,and all of the instruction panel is completly white,wiped out....and the Dutch Lunch was at least all original....i thought it wouldn't be that big of a deal,but i've been wrong before i guess...i'll send the Old Style back no problems,but i need an address.

[eddieguitarloebs]

There's photo's of the Old Style on this thread,if anyone receiving the box would have wanted it they can send me their address when they get the box and i'll send it to them,free of course.....if not i can send it back to Ed when the box is comming home...sorry Ed,i didn't read the rules, and so i had it in my mind that a ballpark equal value would be good enough,but i see that the rules stipulates rare label for rare label...."to me" the old style in it's original condition would have been ,value wise,ballpark close....but again that's my opinion.....all is well!

[Cap-Sealed]

I want this project to be a success and as fun for the guys at the end of the list as it was for those at the top of the list. Granted, the Oldstyle has issues, but I bought that can off ebay for $100 - I wasnt happy with it but traded it and still got a good can for it. We have to exchange cans as if we were trading and nobody would trade an Oldstyle for a Ducth Lunch. If I dont point out the rules from time to time...the box will get watered down with junk that nobody wants and this project will be a failure and no point to carrying it on. I know there's a few guys out there who want this to fail, but I'd like to prove them wrong.

Eddie - I'll PM you John Hamels address tonight - if you want to keep the Oldstyle, send a can of equal rareity, if not, just send the OS to John and no hard feelings.

When the box finally makes the rounds - the cans in the box would be distrubuted to those who donated cans to get the box started.


The Rules:

1) Like rarity for like rarity/similar desirability for similar desirability: OK to swap an OI for a Lo-pro if equal rarity: use USBC book values
2) Post a picture of what you swapped out and put in.
3) No more than exchanging 3 cans
4) No 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 trades (ie 2 lesser cans in better condition for 1 rarer can in lesser condition)
5) Try to keep condition gr 3 or better. Sure, a gr 4 Rosalie or Trumps would be welcomed if it can survive the mail
6) Remember to have fun and not try to squeeze every penny out of the box. After all, we want to help out our fellow Rusty Brothers in adding to our collections!

[kb]

good timing on the box arriving in Buffalo- we had our local Simon Show and made it up there for a couple of hrs, got to share the box with some RB'ers. Monger, Murbacks, JEff Ingersol..so it was neat to go through it with them have a couple all in the Sunshine!! Each guy liked this can or that can, but I decided on these....I took the bottom cans and gave the top cans, should have it in FEd EX Tues...


.enjoy

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i put the euraka in and he put pabst in????

well thanks for the Euraka, never had one .... the PAbst Bock is pretty cool label- OI Bock can nice condition, but not sure if I put the PBR bock in for the Eureka or not. maybe the Leidigs German Style went for that or the pretty tuff dark green Valley Forge Bock OI- when was the last time that can has been found? Not like seeing a pic of 100 Buffalos on the wall.... Now I think there are 2 Dutch Lunchers in the box....

For me the can I really wanted was the Rainier MTN scene can- had a nice one in a different collecting era, adn glad to get one!!! So the box came thru for me this time, unlike last time...

OK , I still have the PON and GOebel - where can i send them??

[chateaudebris]

[eddieguitarloebs]

John [Hamel]....the Old Style is on it's way to keep or put back in the box,so it should get there the same day or day after you get the box.

[Cap-Sealed]

Why dont I just end the box now? I wont because its not fair for the other half of the partcipates who havent even had a chance to trade.

I put in 12 quality cans of my own in and they werent Dutch Lunchs, Acmes and Luckys. If I dont try to keep people to play by the rules, the box will be raped and pillaged like the last potluck box and then filled with junk that nobodys wants.

When I started the box, I asked for donations. When the box is finished making all the stops, the remaining cans in the box would/will be disturbuted to all who donated cans. Will the quality of the box be the same that it started with? I doubt it, not if cans get traded out for common labels. Ideally, cans replaced could be a little tougher than what was taken out.

I am going to intercept the box, replaced what is missing and get it back on it's way to Colorado. No more going out of order even if the next person is a mile away. (this is what caused a bunch of trouble with Dave - he would not be mad now if the box didnt get to him early)

The box went well until just now. You got to follow the rules - its not that hard. Lets try to get it back on track.

[rustamust]

Ed, Well put and the same thing that was the downfall of the second pot luck box started by Dave.

[chateaudebris]

[kb]

It was money and such that drove me to what Rustmonger calls the "free collection" I now only dig and trade for cans. Well, I do buy a clean can every now and then just to decorate my bar area, anyways, we all feel our cans are worht this or that when it comes to values and trading. I took 3 cans off my shelf to trade for the Hop G, Rainier, and Eureka...i brought a few of my shelfers ( which were all aquired via trades) to the Simon Pure show to ask guys what they thought on each can - it was soo close on each one, everyone said well maybe this one is just a bit better or bit worse- it was pretty close and pretty neat. Some people like graphics, some like every OI there, but sorry Dave about saying "100 Buffalos on the Wall" - talking with Monger earlier, I told him I love those pics, heck we tried making a huge stack of Beverwyck flats like that, we dream of digging a boat load of any early can like. Like those guys who found all them Stegamaier Ale Cones...so keep digging!!!

[John H.]

Ok, the box arrived at my place on Saturday at the same time the Old Style can from Oregon. There was only one can I liked out of the box, and it is worth more than the can I had hoped to exchange for, so I'm passing the box on to Ed, hopefully in the next day or two. The box was packed uber tight, and I don't think I can fit the old style in, so I'll look around work today and see if I can find a bigger box. Those that were curious, I was interested in the propeller can and had a Waldorf Beer OI can to swap out, but I don't think it would've been a fair trade so I'm leaving the propeller can for someone else.

John H.

[Mike S]

Those that were curious, I was interested in the propeller can and had a Waldorf Beer OI can to swap out, but I don't think it would've been a fair trade so I'm leaving the propeller can for someone else.

John H.

That sounds like a fair trade to me....unless one of the cans was in horrible shape. Both cans very desirable.
mike

[John H.]

That sounds like a fair trade to me....unless one of the cans was in horrible shape. Both cans very desirable.
mike

Possibly, but I don't want to be accused of putting in a lesser can for one of greater value. Waldorf beers show up far more often than propeller cans, so I'll let it pass. If it's still there after everyone has had their chance with the box, maybe then, but everyone who is participating deserves a chance at it first.

John

[Rustmonger]

Waldorf beers show up far more often than propeller cans

Not in my neck of the woods! I've seen a lot more propeller cans available than Waldorfs. If it's the long opener Waldorf it's a no brainer but, even if it's "just" the Red Band that's still a great can. Pretty even in my mind. I'd fire a PM to Ed to see what he thinks before I'd send it away without taking anything. I can understand being gun shy about not wanting to be accused of an unfair trade but this one sounds fair to me. See what Ed thinks. Just my opinion.

[John H.]

Not in my neck of the woods! I've seen a lot more propeller cans available than Waldorfs. If it's the long opener Waldorf it's a no brainer but, even if it's "just" the Red Band that's still a great can. Pretty even in my mind. I'd fire a PM to Ed to see what he thinks before I'd send it away without taking anything. I can understand being gun shy about not wanting to be accused of an unfair trade but this one sounds fair to me. See what Ed thinks. Just my opinion.

Ok, fair enough, but I'd like the opinion of more than 1 person, so tonight I'll post pictures of both and let those participating make the call. Good trade or not, everyone's opinions are welcome. The Waldorf is the long opener version, not a Red Band.

JCH

[Scott Rollert]

John, I've got a Seattle propellor in my totes. PM me if you want to trade.

[John H.]

Ok, I stand corrected. Looked it up in the USBC. I had thought the propeller can was the more expensive version (from Ruppert?) which is more than the Seattle variant. On closer examination, I saw that it was the more common version from Seattle, so the mistake was mine. I already stated that I was sending it back, so I'm not going to back out now, the loss was mine and others shouldn't have to pay for my screwup. I found a bigger box at work, and if I can get out of work early enough, the box will be on it's way to Ed next. It's supposed to be fun, so if not this time, next time for sure!

JCH

[John H.]

The box is on its way back to Ed for a little reorganizing. Should be back on the road again shortly.

JCH

[Cap-Sealed]

Nothing wrong with adding a little value in the box! It's encouraged and honorable!

[Cap-Sealed]

30s Pot Luck box is now at my house... there's a few cans with holes - not sure if they had holes to begin with or damaged in shipping. I am repairing these cans (otherwise they wont last long) and then will get the box back on its way next weekend. A few cans also have dents which I will pop out.

The box is a little more watered down with easier labels than it started with but hopefully that will change as there is half the list of participants to go yet....

[Bryan2]

Just an idea for future boxes: I've been shipping cans in totes lately. One tote went from me in Ohio to a collector in Texas for about $15. Might this be the best way to ship cans around the country?

Regrettably, I'm not in on this box, so I apologize if I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong.

[Rustomatic]

Wow! Just give me my freaking cans back! I can't believe you guys are arguing over cans. This ain't the RB I remember. Thats why I don't visit as often.

Later,

Tom Inman

[Rustomatic]

I don't want my cans back. I did the pot luck box to get some cans out there to those who are trying to build there collections. I don't mind if the swap is not quite even. However, Ed has a point. We have to keep it fair and equitable. Lets not take advantage.

Later,

Tom Inman

[Cap-Sealed]

If we dont have guidelines, the guys at the end of the list wont have anything good to pick. The Rusty Bunch Dump at canvention (which should be renamed "The Dave Van Hine Dump") is geared more towards helping newer collectors picking up cans as a grabbag - the cans are free and anything goes.

The box will be back on its way after this weekend and I will alllow Scott and Mike from Colorado to do their picks this weekend in Albuquerque at the Roadrunner Show, since there has been a delay in getting the box back out due to damage of some of the cans.

Byran2 suggested using a can tote but they just dont offer as much protection as you would think - ask anyone who has put there totes on airplanes on the way to a can show - weak cans crumble and good cans get dented. I suggest packing the box with the better cans in the middle and the common cans against the sides of the box (of course with packing inbetween).

[Rustomatic]

guess I got in it for the wrong reason. I figured I would pick up a couple good cans. But I donated some cans with the intent of helping someones collection. I wonder how many of you put a price on your cans? Do you have a little black book with all the values of every can in your collection including the traders? This is way to serious.

Later,

Tom Inman

[John H.]

There is no "wrong" reason. We all put in what we thought others might want, and picked out the cans that would help us. The cans are dumpers, so there's not a lot of money involved here. I donated an OI can that I already had, it was a dumper, and it had no real value for me, and it doesn't bother me that I didn't any cans out. I was glad the can I put in had been taken, that means I helped somebody out, and that was all that mattered to me. I wasn't looking to get rich, or trade in my dumper for a higher quality can. If you want to feel good about it, imagine it's a dollar box making the rounds. Take one out, put one in. Ok, the box had a severe western tilt to it, but we can fix that by removing a western can and replacing it with an eastern can. You don't even have to keep the can, give it to a newbie and maybe he'll do the same down the road and bring in new collectors. For those who got cans that went up on the shelf, congratulations, what a neat way to add to your collection! For those that didn't take any, thanks for your participation, maybe they'll be something for you next time. Ed is right, it's supposed to be fun, so stop worrying and enjoy it!

John H.

[Scott Rollert]

Hey Ed, thanks for the heads up on the box being with you at the upcoming Roadrunner show. I had some cans set aside just for it, so I'll be sure to bring 'em with me. That's the upcoming Roadrunner chapter show in Albuquerque NM, beginning this Friday!

[Cap-Sealed]

Box will be headed to Texas after this weekend and then Iowa....

[chateaudebris]

it's pandora's box

[Cap-Sealed]

Nahh.. its just a box full of 30s cans!